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Dax
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I always assumed that the New Zealand mentioned was Earth's.

Voyager's ded plaque says the ship was launched 48038.5 and "Caretaker" was 48315.6 so it's reasonable to assume the Badlands mission was the first.

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For a Vulcan, 100 years old is not old at all. Sarek was about 100 years old during the TOS. When he died, I think he was like at least 200 years old. If it wasn't for the Bandi Syndrom, he'd still be alive. By the way, Spock is about 150 years old, right?
One more thing, how old is Janeway?

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Well, I didn't say that 100 was old for a Vulcan. I just said that he's old enough to be in the same boat as everyone else on the ship: He wouldn't survive a 70 year trip back to earth.

It's never been said how old Janeway is in order to keep her back story open, but Kate Mulgrew is at least in her late 40's. 40's or 50's would be a reasonable age for someone who has been given command of at least two starships. It's probably closer to late 50's. According to Picard's timeline, he's in his 70s and he still looks fabulous!

Dax: If the colony wasn't on Earth, it may have simply been named for the Australia/ New Zealand area which was at one point in Earth's history, used as a penal settlement. I just have trouble believing that the Earth government would turn New Zealand into a Penal settlement again.

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Penal settlement could mean a glorified resort that has no wall or guards, and if you want to be accepted back into society you have to serve your time.

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Abune Rune,
For a Vulcan, 175 years old is nothing (if it takes 75 years for the ship to get home) Sarek lived for like 200 and something years. Spock is like at least 170 years old already and still alive.
Does any know the average lifespan for Vulcans? I know that humans are about 85 years, right?

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Must be higher in the 24th century, don't you think? I mean, "they" say the average age will have risen to a hundred in like fifteen years or so! How old was McCoy in "Encounter at Farpoint"?

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I think he was 137. Maybe they'll be some mention of Admiral/Dr. McCoy's death because of the death of the actor on an episode of Voyager (one where they contact, or we see, Earth again).

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Aban Rune
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O.K. One more time. Tuvok is not old. Say he's 140 now. Not old for a Vulcan. But, if the trip took 75 years, that would put him a decade or so over 200. In all likelyhood, he wouldn't survive the trip. Sarek was just over 200 when he died and all evidence points to the fact that he was a very old man, even by Vulcan standards. The only average lifespan that I can think of that might ever have been given for Humans, Klingons, and Vulcans is in one of the Quark books (no not canon I know).

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Actually, Sarek probably wasn't overly old by Vulcan standards. I got the impression that he could have lived quite a bit longer if not for the Bendii Syndrome. I would say a 200-year-old Vulcan is a bit like a 70- or 75-year-old human today. Sure, they might die at any time, but they're also likely to live a lot longer.

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Obi Juan
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TSN: thats basically the average human life span. Not that I disagree, I definately didn't get the impression that Sarek wasn't dying young, though some vulcans might outlive him.

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bryce
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I remember an interview in TV Guide when the show started that explained this. At first, they were looking for an older actor to play an older Tuvok, for some reason they couldn't get one and Tim Russ got the part. The interviewee (?? someone important) stated Vulcans lived about twice as long as humans. Since humans live really long in the 24th century that 20? idea is ok. But, according to what I remember Tuvok was orginally supposed to be only 70ish because of Tim Russ's age (mid 30s when the show began?). This is, of course, screwed up because of the ep. with Tuvok on the Excelsior, but I just gave you guys something else to chew on.

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Aban Rune
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Well, the only thing I'm going on when I say that the average Vulcan life span is about twice that of humans, is the fact that Bandii syndrome appeared to be an advanced age-related disease, like Alzheimer's. The "actual" Vulcan lifespan has never been released although I was always under the impression that Tuvok had to face the possibility that he would die of old age on the trip back just like everyone else.

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Harry
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Even if he does survive, the humans and probably most of the alien crewmembers are dead, and you can't run a ship on your own, so he'll eventually die as well.

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I'm sure that the crew would have childern and after all, Voyager is a small ship with a crew that has gone through a lot. I would think at the max a quarter of the crew has gone to bed with another crew member.

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heh heh I can just imagine!
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