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Gepta001
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ok I've looked at the preview, and it is basically just a promo for the next 6 episodes with mainly stuff from the wrestling episode. what is next week's episode about?

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Alshrim Dax
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Well this is as much as I know:

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A superior alien race inexplicably worships The Doctor's singing voice, granting him rock-star status. - This from Continuum.

Other stuff I've heard, is that this race of people have never really heard music before (imagine that - life without music! What would I do without my Stevie Ray Vaughan, and Jonny Lang, and Lucky Peterson) So when they hear the Doc singing .. they worship him..

I think it'll be funny, relief type of ep, which will show the 'human' side of Voyager.

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Hopefully it will be a good episode. Wouldn't that be good, if Voyager had mostly good episodes for a long time. One question, do you think it is almost impossible for a civilization to go without hearing music?

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That would depend on a lot of factors like biology and culture. I'm sure that there'd be aliens wordering how we went along for millennia without ____.
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The species are apparently named the Qomar (I'm guessing pronounced Komar). The Doctor falls in love with one of the aliens. I think her name is Tincoo.

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I can imagine a culture evolving w/o music. But this could only happen if they have no sense of rhythm at all. In which case, they would hear music and simply think of it as noise. Someone singing, to them, would simply be someone talking funny.

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I don't think I buy it. Think about the band Stomp. Humans at least can perceive music in just about anything. For a culture to evolve without some kind of music, they'd have to be COMPLETELY different than us and socially and most likely biologically. But if that was the case, how would they recognize the Doc's singing voice? But I guess we'll just have to wait until the ep has actually been aired.

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Alshrim Dax
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Ya, even Vulcans have music .. and they're self-proclaimed passionless people.

I mean, music is suppose to stir emotion..

But with Vulcans, I suppose, they weren't always like that - you know, passionless.


The species could be simply fixed on science, mathematics, etc..- things of a strictly practical nature ... Like the Borg !! The Borg don't have music .. it's irrelevant - serves no practical purpose.

So,TSN, I can argue your point, I think. Imagine if you've been deaf all your life .. And after a miracle cure, you hear, for the first time, a song by who ever it is you like... Let's say a peach of a voice like, Celine Dion, or Barbara Streisand... or a booming voices like Tom Jones, or a velvet voice like Elvis Presley ... You'd probly be moved to tears .. depending on your taste, of course.

So now, imagine a society that is deaf when it comes to music.. It never occurs to them that the voice can be used for anything non-practical, like singing. And for the first time, they hear a tune... I think they'd be facinated..

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It could also be that the entire species is tone deaf and there music just sucks.

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Alshrim: Yes, but humans have a natural tendency toward music. I mean, someone taps a rock on a stick, and they notice that there's a rhythm to it. Eventually, this evolves into more complex patterns that are music. If these people have never developed music in any way, shape, or form, it means that they have no sense of it whatsoever. Surely, someone at some time in their culture tapped a stick against a rock and made a rhthym. But, if this didn't evolve into music, it suggests that these people are simply wired so differently from us that they can't comprehend "music". They aren't deaf; their brains just don't work the same way ours do.

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Unfortunately, we are lacking in good comparision studies.

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True.. but let me re-itterate something..

A Borg Drone, taps a field-coil infuser (does that even exist?? ) to a field-coil 3 times in succession ... would that drone recognize the rhythm .. or would it dismiss it as an irrelevancy ?!

I'm saying, it's possible that this culture may never have considered the concept of rhythm as relevant.

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Alshrim: the borg aren't a good example of a culture without music because the borg aren't really a race...I'm sure that whatever race the borg trully orginated from had music, but since they evolved into the borg, music had become irrelevant to them, and any time they assimilate a new species, the new borgs are then mindless drones and what was once important, isn't. Family, music, love, all irellevant.

I myself think while the episode might be good, the basis of a culture without music, IMO is stu-pid. I think that Ron Moore would agree with me, have you guys read his latest interview?

-Marc

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Personally, I think it's a fascinating concept, and don't see what relevance Moore has with it.

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Regardless of what they once where before being assimilated .. the Borg is a race ..

They are sentient - .. just because they are different to what we know .. doesn't make them any less a race than a Vulcan, Cardassian, or a Ferengi !!

That's what I think anyways..

I'm looking forward to this ep !! I won't get to watch it till 4am my time !!

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[This message has been edited by Alshrim Dax (edited January 26, 2000).]


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