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Treknophyle
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So now the ship is only 190 meters long? (TrekToday).

Now I know why there are only 80+ personnel.

Archer: "It's not how big it is, it's how you use it".
T'Pol: "She lied".

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Siegfried
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What does this 190 meter length do to the ship? Obviously, that makes it shorter than what we were guessing, but does this make the ship too small for the crew complement? Is it feasible for the ship to really be that small?
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Treknophyle
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Well, it looks to be about 2/3 the volume of the TOS NCC-1701. And that ship held 400+ personnel. So I'd say this one could comfortably fit 100 - plus the older systems.

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The_Tom
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FWIW, the bible was most likely written long before the design was finalized. While most of the exterior features would fit 190m at a squeeze, I wouldn't be surprised if the ship did in fact end out being slightly bigger, as things like the turbolift and bridge superstructure indicate.

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Mikey T
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So we will have another scaling problem like the Defiant?

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PsyLiam
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I doubt it. They'll probably set a "proper" length once they've checked the model, and Okuda has drawn up planes. In fact, they probably already have.

The Defiant had problems because, for one, it wasn't the "main" series vessel. It was introduced half way through the show. And it seemed to have been designed piecemeal (sp?). I bet the engine room wasn't designed until well into season 3.

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Michael Dracon
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Maybe the Nova class is a better ship to compare it with. It's rougly equal to the pre-Enterprise in size and amount of crewmembers.

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Timo
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I'm more worried about the 80,000 ton weight. That's roughly on line with the density of today's materials and constructs, but nowhere near what the TOS Enterprise is supposed to weigh - with less than double the volume, she's pushing close to a million tons. Or so Scotty says in "Mudd's Women".

The million-ton figure agrees well with what is given in the DS9 TM, and furthermore is the only canonical reference to starship mass we have. Apparently, nobody asked Sternbach when the Bible was written.

I could live with the realistic instead of the canonical mass figures. Or then I'd speculate that it's the warp coils that weigh so much in the future ships, and NX-01 has something else inside those nacelles - perhaps a spool of wire instead of a series of solid rings?

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Ryan McReynolds
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Well, the Enterprise has much smaller nacelles, proportionally, than the Constitution class. That could account for the difference, I think.

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