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You're all forgetting that people in the 24th century HATE the Enterprise NX-01. After all, it's crew was responsible for the "disastrous" first contact with the Klingons. They hate it so much that they try to forget that it even existed. And they certainly did a very good job of forgetting about it, too.
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There is no evidence whatsoever that everyone in the 24th century hates the NX Enterprise. We just don't here it being discussed onscreen. They could still be talking about her offscreen when we aren't there. Talking and saying she was this and that with some saying she was great or whatever.
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By that same token, the people of the 24th century must really hate the space shuttle Enterprise, the carriers Enterprise, most of the sailing ships Enterprise, and the Declaration-class Enterprise to that as well.
Come to think of it, they don't talk about the Enterprise-B, either. They must really hate that ship for "killing" James T. Kirk. Oh, the Enterprise-C has only been mentioned a couple times. Better add that too, since she's hating for "losing" to the Romulans and all. You know, the Enterprise-A isn't mentioned all that much, either. Hmmm...
The ultimate reason is everyone hates the Enterprise except for the original 1701. I mean, watch "Relics" and see the clear disdain Scotty has for the -A, -B, -C, and -D. I bet he hates the -E, too, just because.
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Apparently no one understands a good joke anymore. Sheesh...
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yep thats seven alright
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Now with the E nobody talks abnout the D. On the same token, nobody mentioned, except for a couple occasions (for instace, First Contact), the E as well.
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on soemthing which doesnt even matter.. did we ever learnt the name of the first officer on the Enterprise-B? during its maiden voyage? ...and just to stir things up.. wat are the names of the Captains and First officers that have ever held that position on a federation starship named Enterprise. (include Robert April)
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NCC-1701: CO Robert April with XO Unknown CO Christopher Pike with XO Number One CO James T. Kirk with XO Spock (was Spock XO in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" or was Gary Mitchell? I can't remember) CO Will Decker with XO Xon (Phase II stuff here) CO James T. Kirk with XO Will Decker (ST:TMP) CO Spock with XO Sulu? Uhura? Scotty? (early ST:TWoK) CO James T. Kirk with XO Spock (latter ST:TWoK) CO James T. Kirk with XO Montgomery Scott (ST:TSfS -- speculative based on Scotty being number two for the destruct sequence)
NCC-1701-A: CO James T. Kirk XO Spock
NCC-1701-B: CO John (some say James) Harriman XO Doesn't arrive until Tuesday
NCC-1701-C: CO Rachel Garrett with XO Unknown although Chris Castillo filled that role during "Yesterday's Enterprise." Once the Enterprise-C returned to her own time, he became the CO and probably Tasha Yar filled in for a short-lived XO capacity.
NCC-1701-D: CO Jean-Luc Picard with XO William T. Riker CO William T. Riker with XO Shelby (Best of Both Worlds) CO Edward Jellico with XO William T. Riker (Chains of Command)
NCC-1701-E: CO Jean-Luc Picard XO William T. Riker
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oooh.. noncanon info opportunity
USS Enterprise, NCC-1701
CO: Capt. Robert April ("The Counter-Clock Incident") XO: Cmdr. Lorna Simon ("Best Destiny"). The novel "Final Frontier" also establishes that, for one mission, security Cmdr. George Samuel Kirk served in this position.
CO: Capt. Christopher R. Pike ("The Cage"). XO: Lt. Cmdr. Number One (The novel "Vulcan's Glory" states 'Number One' was named such as she came from an Earth Colony, Ilyria, that practiced eugenics through selective breeding, and she was the prime candidate for the year she was born. The [u]Early Voyages[/u] comic states that her given name is Robbins, although it could be reconciled that an Earth surname appears on her records as a supplement to her colonial Ilyrian apellation). In the last mission chronicled in the comic series, while Pike was presumed dead and Number One was severely injured in battle, command of the Enterprise was assumed by Commodore Robert April, who named helmsman Lt. Sita Mohindas as his executive. The story was never published, though.
CO: Capt. James T. Kirk ("Where No Man Has Gone Before"). XO: Lt. Cmdr. Spock ("Where No Man Has Gone Before"). Some sources posit that Lt. Cmdr. Gary Mitchell was the original first officer, but I think this is unlikely, as science officer Spock would have no reason to wear command gold unless he was already serving as first officer at that point. Of course, he switched to science blue for the rest of his tenure as first officer due to his double position. Also, Mitchell wore beige (the precursor to the operations red uniform color) rather than command gold.
CO: Capt. Willard Decker XO: *UNDECIDED* (Decker commanded the vessel during its refit, an 18 month period. Out of active service, it's unclear who would have been an XO, or if one was required for a non-active assignment. It's likely the position would've gone to Lt. Cmdr. Hikaru Sulu had the refit been completed as scheduled.)
CO: Adm. James T. Kirk XO: Capt. Willard Decker (After Decker's apparent demise, the position was passed on to Cmdr. Spock)
CO: Capt. Spock XO: Cmdr. Hikaru Sulu (This is the supposition of several novels, assuming that Scotty's duties as chief engineer precluded him from taking a command position higher than second officer, despite his seniority).
USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-A
CO: Capt. James T. Kirk XO: Capt. Spock
USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-B
CO: Capt. John Harriman XO: Cmdr. Tracey Dane ("The Captain's Daughter"). She arrived on the Tuesday after everything happened.
USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-C
CO: Capt. Rachel Garrett XO: *UNKNOWN* (I'm sure this data was revealed in one a them thar novels I haven't read, Vulcan's Heart of Glory or somethin'). Seems the position was ceded to Castillo, and then maybe the command team of Castillo and Yar, only for the duration of the last battle. His first name was Richard, by the way, not Chris. But only his mother called him that
USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-D
CO: Capt. Jean-Luc Picard, briefly replaced by W. T. Riker, briefly replaced by Ed Jellico XO: Cmdr. William T. Riker, briefly replaced by Elizabeth P. Shelby (under Riker), briefly replaced by Data (under Jellico)
the fake future in 'Future Imperfect' had a Riker- Data team
the fake future in 'AGT' had Adm. Riker with no budget left for extras to play and XO
USS Enteprise, NCC-1701-E
CO: Capt. Jean-Luc Picard XO: Cmdr. William T. Riker
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replaced by some Cmdr. Ed Madden dude, right?
an interesting alternate timeline in Q-Squared had an alternate Enterprise-D commanded by Capt. Jack Crusher, with XO Cmdr. Jean-Luc Picard, busted in rank for losing the Stargazer.
In 'Imzadi' the Enterprise-F was commanded by Commodore Data, with XO and science officer Cmdr. Blair, an allasomorph.
In 'DS9: Millennium' the E-E was destroyed saving the Rigel systems from a terrorist moon-crashing plot, and Picard and Riker commanded the E-F. Riker took over when Picard was promoted, with XO Tom Paris. They all died at the hands of the Grigari, who destroyed Earth.
*whew*
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quote:Originally posted by Siegfried: Fedaykin's challenge.
lol, well i wouldnt have called it a challenge but the information from both the canon and non-canon viewpoints was greatly appreciated! the only reason i asked was coz in some cases i wasnt sure of the info, and in (most) others i just didnt know. plus for some cases i plain forgot (eg. i completely forgot about the Jellico temp. posting).
thnx neway
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