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The Vulcan High Command considered assigning T'Pol to this mission a matter of HONOR??? What the heck? It's obvious that there was some kind of screw-up, so wouldn't it be a whole lot more LOGICAL to assign someone who hadn't failed before?
In fact, if the Vulcans knew about T'Pol's repression of the memory before (and I find it very hard to believe that they didn't), then why the hell would they send T'Pol on the mission years later and risk disturbing the block of that memory?
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She resigned, so they may not have the info about her whatever it was called, that was done in the monestary(I think she called it)...
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From what I understood from it -- she requested that she forget all about the person she killed -- and the guilt associated with killing him.... they didn't make her forget about anything else. That is why, at first, she remembered there only being 6 people that she was assigned to return to Vulcan.
It was only later, as she began to remember everything -- that she recalled the Seventh -- hence the title of the ep.
Anyhow.. that's how I see it.
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quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: The Vulcan High Command considered assigning T'Pol to this mission a matter of HONOR??? What the heck? It's obvious that there was some kind of screw-up...
Not necessarily. Perhaps the vulcans were very happy that T'Pol killed number six. They may have also wanted to give her a chance to make up for the weakness she showed after that mission.
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Exactly. Klingons spout off about honor all the time, but Vulcans have never, ever given much thought about honor, directly. Dignity, maybe. Logic, definitely.
I refer you to the classic scene from TWOK where Kirk's trying to get Spock to keep command of the Enterprise. They have no ego to bruise. Remember?
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I agree; I do not believe Vulcans would have any use for the concept of honour. It is an emotional thing and some pretty illogical acts have been performed in its name.
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Of course, just off the top of my head, I can think of something that nearly every onscreen Vulcan ever has spent much time worrying about and which can only be described as a matter of honor or pride.
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Honor is the foundation of trust. Trust itself, in strictly mathematical terms, usually yields slightly better results in games theory than it's reverse, betrayal. Therefore, it is logical to have honor. Even a Vulcan could see that.
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Vulcans have an interesting way of expressing honor then...
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Maybe we're talking about two different "honor"s here. The Vulcans gave the assignment to T'Pol because it was "an honor". Now, which is more logical: sending the closest person who can do the job, or pulling someone off another assignment, someone who is likely to flip out in the process, because it would be "an honor"?
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It could be that the Vulcans thought of the assignment as an honor due to the fact that it would be difficult for T'pol. They know her history, obviously, and I don't believe they would approve of the fact that she had memory repressions. In a way, this assignment could have be a sort of "tough love" for T'pol...She would need to confront her "fears" head on in order to succeed.
Also, The Vulcans must have realized that even if T'pol failed on her mission, they would win. If she broke down and snapped, or was killed, well, the Vulcans lose a valuable asset, but they also remove T'pol's recommendations to keep the Enterprise mission going.
Meanwhile, if she succeeded, the Vulcans will have an even stronger "agent" than before. It's cold-blooded, as Dr. McCoy used to say, but logical.
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Also: In most systems of honor here in reality, it is always seen as a "great honor" to receive a second chance on something you failed at previously. They honored her by letting her try and nab the fugitive even though she failed before...it was a show of respect and trust in her abilities.
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