Amasov Prime
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It took 20 years for Star Wars to get two (possibly three) mediocre sequels that were planned anyway, both BSG and Dr. Who are basically the same old concept for a new generation, not a continuation of the old shows. And Firefly is the same as Farscape' mini and Babylon 5's feature; it came back because of the fans who bought the DVDs and supported the show.
Don't get me wrong, I really hope that the show will come back, but it wont be tomorrow and it may not be what we are hoping for. Paramount wants our money, for sure, but - compared to Farscape and B5 - they already get it. Plenty of it. No need to produce more Trek for now. Fox sucked the Star Wars franchise dry for 20 years, and that's just three movies.
On the positive side they got rid of B&B, too (for now, at least. For what it's worth, there's still the upcoming movie, currently in developement hell. I hope it'll come out someday).
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Y'know, it's funny, but I recently watched Futurama's Trek parody "Where No Fan Has Gone Before" with the audio commentary, recorded after the show had been cancelled.
David Cohen jokes that David Goodman (who wrote the episode) has a history of working on shows that get cancelled after he joins them. What show had Goodman moved onto just prior to recording the commentary track?
"Dr. Who being another example. True, there aren't any television shows in production, but we've had at least one TV movie and reports are of another movie in the works."
I think your information is a little out of date, there. The TV episodes are in production right now and are supposed to start airing in March.
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It seems like a sick joke how people (myself included) bitched for the show to be cancelled for its lousy theme, hackneyed space-marine war arc -- we finally get a season of Orion pirates, Vulcan deserts, and an exact recreation of a TOS era ship -- the things we wanted to see around ENT Season 1 -- and _THEN_ they cancel it. I guess we are lucky to have one year of wishes coming true before the end.
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I wonder how many online petitions there are to save this shitty show.
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I've enjoyed this season of Enterprise. I haven't seen every episode of the series (I missed almost all of season three due roommate issues), but I've liked the series as a whole. I'll miss it.
I don't think that giving Star Trek a rest is necessarily a bad thing. I highly doubt anyone or anything can "kill" Star Trek, but I do think it suffers from having been on for so long a run without interruption. I think it's a shame that this comes with the good work Coto and company have done this season, but such is life and the inherent unfairness of it.
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Even The Nestles Generation was better than most of this show's stories. It sucks that the show has been cancelled, but it's really not a suprise at all. Stargate is the Star Trek killer.
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quote:Neither Star Trek nor Enterprise will ever return - nor do they deserve to return - as long as there are so many "fans" who are obviously just sick and tired of this franchise.
Sorry, but that's plain bullshit. I think MinutiaeMan's statement sums it up far more nicely:
quote:There's nothing wrong with wanting to give "Star Trek" a rest. I'm not addicted to a constant stream of new shows; ... crappy "Trek" is IMO far worse than no "Trek" at all.
Those who consider themselves "addicted" in that respect should try and "get a life" - to coin that old phrase yet again.
quote:I highly doubt anyone or anything can "kill" Star Trek, but I do think it suffers from having been on for so long a run without interruption.
Another very true statement IMHO.
And sure, Enterprise may have had some good episodes - though I haven't seen any of them. Perhaps because I didn't have a chance yet, not having been able to see the latest season here in Germany. But on the whole, ever since the end of DS9, Star Trek in general went downhill: Insurrection, Nemesis, Voyager, Enterprise. Having a few outstanding moments inbetween is just not good enough.
And I still consider myself a Star Trek fan, but this doesn't mean I have to like everything TPTB throw at me, or does it?
From what I gather about most of the postings on the latest season, having gotten rid of B&B must have had very positive effects. Well, they should have done that before even creating Enterprise...
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Ok, I haven't read this whole thred - but this is sad new indeed. They are doing the WRONG thing. I agree Voyager was allowed 7 seasons? The show should have been off the air after season 2! Enterprise has never been a BAD show - and it has only improved since season 3 and even moreso in season 4. I will DEFINATELY be voicing my support for this show. There have been 'campaigns' over the years for various shows (not including the original Trek) Like Angel or Farscape they had their time... Enterprise has not had it's time.
Andrew
P.S. Some of the arguments AGAINST Enterprise - I've read in this thread are simply pathetic. Very childish indeed - one in particular I'm sure others would have noticed.
Andrew
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quote:Originally posted by The Captain from M.I.K.E.: we finally get a season of Orion pirates, Vulcan deserts, and an exact recreation of a TOS era ship -- the things we wanted to see around ENT Season 1 --
Er, I wanted to see good storytelling interesting characters. The others I couldn't give a monkeys about (well, okay, the whole Defiant thing is cool, but it's also pure unadulturated fanwank).
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quote:Originally posted by The Captain from M.I.K.E.: we finally get a season of Orion pirates, Vulcan deserts, and an exact recreation of a TOS era ship -- the things we wanted to see around ENT Season 1 --
Er, I wanted to see good storytelling interesting characters. The others I couldn't give a monkeys about (well, okay, the whole Defiant thing is cool, but it's also pure unadulturated fanwank).
But there are good character episodes too. The Vulcan arc was GREAT. There's no denying season 3 was very good.
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I'm denying it. Season 3, although it had some good stories, was ultimatly pointless. Not too mention the last 10 seconds of Season 3, which basically destroyed whatever point they were trying to make.
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