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Why do I have this feeling that the very end of the episode is going to be Riker and Troi in bed reading aloud from a history book on Enterprise's adventures?
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If it were a two-hour finale, it would be assigned two production numbers and count as two episodes. Given the known number of episodes established for this season and UPN/Pramount's oh-so-tight purse strings, it will most certainly be a one-hour finale.
I'm figuring that Riker and Troi will bookend the series as well, while irrefutably tying ENT into the main franchise canon. There was a nice short fiction written somewhere on the TrekBBS boards about how the episode ends with Enterprise heading out into the stars to begin the Romulan wars. The shot dissolves to Riker and Troi on an empty NX-01 bridge, the ship now preserved in the fleet museum. Acknowledging the contribution this ship made to history and the birth of the Federation, they find the resolve to finally strike out on their own aboard the USS Titan... Fade out.
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The issue I have with Frakes & Sirtis being guest stars in the series finale is the same as I had for Shatner possibly making an appearance: It's just the fanwank value of having someone from a previous series on the show for ratings purposes, while making the reasons for actually having said person on the show secondary.
It's like when they filmed scenes with Quark for ST:Insurrection, or when they bandied the idea of having 7 of 9 appear in Nemesis, then ultimately using Janeway: None of these instances were actually needed, and in some cases would have distracted from the main story.
So just why to Riker & Troi need to make an appearance? First of all, it seems to me that since they couldn't get Shatner (and either didn't bother trying to get Patrick Stewart or he just said no), they tried to get somebody for the reasons above. I mean, I don't particulary want to see them. About the only thing I'd like to see is the Titan, and there's no definite word on that, either (or if we did see it, I'd be too worried that Eaves would just re-use a Prometheus or a Nova).
Of course, what would be nice is if the scenes with Riker & Troi took place at the beginning of the 25th century, when they are now serving on the Enterprise-F instead of the Titan. At least we'd be able to have some linkage with the actual show "Enterprise."
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That's Enterprise-J I think you're talking about..?
I sincerely doubt we'd see anything of the Titan - that'd just be too disrupting to any story they'd tell with Archer and crew, if it's some sort of bookend as we are theorizing. It'd be fun, but for this show and this budget, unless it's a fair chunk of the plot, we won't see anything sizeable from a different time frame.
And I think Coto or one of the writers has said that Shatner's story was independent of whatever they're writing for Frakes and Sirtis. The Shatner story was supposed to be a Reeves-Stevens work,a nd they're not doing the finale.
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I was thinking Riker and Troi would be seen as part of events from First Contact being revisted, but if it's not a time travel story, I'm not sure how that would work. Flashbacks? That too could be quite pointless.
I don't like the idea of bookending the series, because it reduces the whole thing to Riker's imagination. Kind of like the entire season of Dallas that turned out to be a dream so they could write a dead character back into the show.
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It is revealed that Riker is Future Guy, wanting to avoid the formation of the Federation so that he never joins Starfleet Academy, meets Troi, marries her years later, and his life with her aboard the USS Titan turns into a hell of a nightmare. Troi shows up to take him back. "Yes, dear..."
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If it's not a time travel story, either Frakes adn Sirtis are nto playing Riker and Troy, or the story has an eplog set in the future.
Visiting the Enterprise Museum would be cool.
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Frankly, I was hoping the rumors about Frakes and Sirtis showing up were going to apply to the Mirror ep, showing events from First Contact, and the sudden downturn things took after the Ent. E crew beamed up.
I just don't liek the idea of the finale of the show introducing detracting points from the finale of the show. I mean, seriously, would All Good Things' final shot have had the same effect if, after panning up from the saucer, the screen fades to Kirk looking down on the Ent D from the Nexus and saying, "Yah... that's just how I would have handled things."
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I was thinking about this today. How can Riker & Troi appear? You have the interactive (and non-time travelling) stroylines. . .
- A bit of a "Cause and Effect" thing in which the NX-091 gets stuck in a time-loop until it escapes - and encounters the Titan. Not time-travel per se.
- An "Eye of the Needle" thing (or a "Sound of her Voice" thing) involving temporal communication. Hmm, who suggested Riker as Future Guy? It'd sure annoy a lot of people.
. . . and the non-interactive. . .
- A re-tread of the library scene from Insurrection where Riker and Troi review the adventures of Archer & Co.
- Or they're seen as background crewmembers on the NX-01, and at the end it turns out they're having a little family holonovel session.
- Or - my personal favourite - Riker comes out of the sonic shower and says "Honey, I had this weird dream last night!" 8)
quote:Originally posted by Lee: - Or - my personal favourite - Riker comes out of the sonic shower and says "Honey, I had this weird dream last night!" 8)
Or see Scott Bakula do a tie-in to Quantum Leap like the ending of Newhart tied into The Bob Newhart Show. That was a great series finale.
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quote:- Or they're seen as background crewmembers on the NX-01, and at the end it turns out they're having a little family holonovel session.
That's my favourite theory so far. Imagine the series ending with the words "Computer, End Program" FADE TO BLACK then the Quantum Leap-esq epilogue "They never could get the Holodeck's historical re-creations to work right."
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