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I think the nacelle is pretty good match for those on the long-body, low-nacelle ship. The proportions match: The thick foresection is slightly more than half the length of the entire nacelle (about 55%) and the support is about one third total length and attached slightly behind the front. The foreshortening of the nacelle in Spacedock and the visible front end suggest that the ship is turned toward us (about 20 degrees) so that the port nacelle might be obscured in that dark background.
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How was the interior of Spacedock filmed? Were actual models stuck inside a spacedock "set" or were they added later through whatever the means was?
In other words, is the Phase II Enterprise actually inside this set or added later?
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Just to clear something up, this ship is a pre-Phase II study model. The actual photographable ship model that was built for Phase II looked more like the movie E.
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From what I understand, the spacedock, Enterprise (not "The Enterprise" ), and Excelsior were all filmed separately and then composited. All the models were in separate scales so couldn't be filmed together. The nice clean picture of this scene we see in books and magazines looks like a special composite intended as a publicity still and is probably not a completely accurate view of what appears on film.
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Yes, it seems that the central pier structure was a (partial) model too, yet the AoST version has many details of it obviously painted on afterwards. Even the Excelsior windows seem added in "post-production", since they weren't consistent with the model.
Are the Excelsior windows in the DVD-grab different from those in the AoST picture?
Until now, I had maintained the hope that we would not see the McQuarrie ships on screen, so that I could claim their nacelles had standard TOS ramscoops for greater commonality and improvement of silohouette. This nacelle doesn't seem to have a 'scoop. Oh, well. Perhaps this ship was already damaged and waiting for scrapping?
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Or maybe it's another prototype. After all, the Ambassador class has TOS-like 'scoops.
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Maybe the scoops were inverted, you know, like a big kettle drum?
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Is there any chance the ship could actually be the flat Excelsior study model, and a strange trick of lighting is making us see a cylindrar instead of angular nacelle? I don't think this is especially probable, but it's one possibility - the general shapes and dimensions match.
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That second nacelle IS there, i've increased the gamma levels of the pic and its now my windows background... the nacelle is just in a dark area so its blending in with the 'strut' of the spacedock.
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), and Excelsior were all filmed separately and then composited. All the models were in separate scales so couldn't be filmed together. The nice clean picture of this scene we see in books and magazines looks like a special composite intended as a publicity still and is probably not a completely accurate view of what appears on film. 
aren't necessary for warp-flight, are they? They are basically only emergency deuterium collection things. Or not?
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