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Thanks for looking that up, I knew it was somewhere in the ST:TNG manual about warpflight direction changes. Maybe the little saying is exaggerated and refers to the difficulty in changing a ship's heading 'drastically' while in warp.
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Nimrod: And how do think the Prometheus sections change position at warp? By changing the warp field
Another reference: The Species 8472 ship that got rammed by a Borg cube in 'Scorpion, part 2' tried to turn away when the Cube rammed it. This also happened at warp speeds.
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Altair: I'm triyng to tell you the prommie-sections strafed sideways to surround the Nebula, they never banked or tilted. They didn't need to change their heading, they just shifted their positions with gentle thruster boosts. Shouldn't the warp fields have been intact then?
Since the manouver (vre?) was performed by the flight-computer I assume it knew exactly how much thrusting to use without sending the crafts into planets.
I haven't read any warp-books, just using common sense. If I'm wrong then I humbly apologize...
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Nimrod..the Prometheus probably did use thrusters only to get some lateral separation on the Nebula, but don't look for banking or tilting to confirm a course change. Both are totally unneccessary in a vacuum and have been included in shows for dramatic purposes...unless it was used to aim a point weapon more effectively.
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What about "Basics part 1"? There's at least one shot of Voyager flying along at warp while a Kazon ship flies around it, exchanging fire. The Kazon ship definetly alters orientation (if not speed. Thinking about it, if both ships were doing, say, warp 6, and one altered it's heading slightly, it'd fly off pretty quickly).
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I don't think that thrusters are of any use at warp speeds, and that any and all course changes, however minor, are accomplished through the nacelles themselves.
It seems that whenever something is transfered to or from a warp field, special measures have to be taken to get it to work. Phasers have their special ACB 'jackets', transporters have to match up frequencies and warp speeds and probably other, more boring but no less important numbers. Adding that capability to the manuvering thrusters seems like much more trouble than it is worth, since we have already somewhat firmly established that the warp drive is what does all the pushing at warp speeds.
The Prometheus sections probably did not change their warp fields, because that would create some very wierd 'turbulance' with four ships so close to eachother.
Sorry Nimrod!
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It's ok, but I've always been bothered by that thing The Turnip brought up. If two ships fly at warp 6, and one accelerates to 6.1, it would get a mindboggingly big lead. And if one would make a course correction they should just disappear, as they fly faster than the light reflecting them...
Something Trek vfx often never does is display the REAL relations between ships, velocities and points in space. The "warp-traveling" torpedoes, for one thing. Even contemporary rockets fly faster than the Voyager's torpedoes. I'm thinking of "Thirty Days", when Paris tried to liberate the waterworld. Voyager fired a torpedo that, in relation to the surface of the sea, traveled at 70mph, give or take. I could send a golfball faster than that.
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Oi, what am I missing about the word "turnip"? You used it in the Breen ship thread, too. Is this just some obssession of yours, or what? *L*
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*sigh* Check the Barney-bashing thread, Shik's "Argh"-thread and the "Trek-DVD box sets" thread. Behind the curtains...
Don't think I'll let him off the hook just yet, though! And Sol should check both sides of the road before he crosses. "Hell hath no fury like a little turnip scorned"...
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I actually had to explain that speed/distance thing to a friend:
When the Prometheus came out of warp by the EMH, the Federation ships entered the scene mere moments after it. But because they were at very high warp, close to warp 9.9, they could indeed be at the scene so fast.
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Nimrod wrote: ---------------- It's ok, but I've always been bothered by that thing The Turnip brought up. If two ships fly at warp 6, and one accelerates to 6.1, it would get a mindboggingly big lead. And if one would make a course correction they should just disappear, as they fly faster than the light reflecting them... ------------------
You are talking about actually see the ship on a screen right? Because they got FTL sensors- I'm just wanna be sure about what you meant.
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