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Nim
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Can the Defiant hold out her potatoes and land on surfaces? Methinks it would be reasonable, und neat...

I did miss many ep's btw "The Ship" and "The Sound Of Her Voice", just bought the most important tapes I could decide on, they do cost 24$ per volume here.
Maybe I missed something defiantly interesting?

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Nim
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Vermillion hells!!! Can some merrciful soul erase the turnip out of this extra-thread? Much obliged.

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Here lies a toppled god,
His turnip not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

-Tleilaxu Epigram



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Michael Dracon
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The ship has landing struts. At least there is one schematic that says so.

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Nim
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Really? Whose schematic?

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We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

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Nim
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Ok then, please erase the shit out of the OTHER thread, Mr Vulcan, er, admin...

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Here lies a toppled god,
His turnip not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

-Tleilaxu Epigram



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Aban Rune
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The schematic on the Ship's MSD as well as the one in the DS9 tech manual shows two (presumably two pair) landing struts curled up on the lower deck. They are probably for landing on moons or asteroids since Sisko has said that the ship wasn't designed for atmospheric entry.

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Nim
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Oh. *sebulbaspeak* "POODOO!!"

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We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

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Fabrux
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The struts could also be for landing in starbase repair bays.

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It was stated in the DS9TM that the Defiants landing struts were for EMERGENCEY planetry landing unlike Voyager where landing is routine. i.e. If a Dominion patrol had pursued the Defiant to a Class M planet and it was forced to land. The crew could land the ship and activate the cloak wait for the patrol to leave orbit. The crew could then leave the ship repair what damage was done to the hull and if the Impulse reactors and thrusters were working the ship could then then acheive an orbit and ultimately return to DS9 at maximum Warp.
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Nim
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Well, "emergency-use" pads or zero-G grappling paws sounds reasonable. I used to feel that it would be better if she could land, but she probably IS more optimized as a no-nonsense fighter if she doesn't have to carry all the extra equipment needed to endure descents and ascents through planetary atmospheres.

About that (some Trek-tech philosophizing), I've sometimes wondered if the internal pressure on Trek-ships causes hull stress over the years.
All that air wanting to burst out, wouldn't that start a really slow "buckling" process that finally emanates in a crack somewhere? Isn't that a problem for shuttles of today, or is the vacuum-pull already negligible to modern materials?
I've always felt it would be nice if engineers, during "1000:d-lightyear" spacedock-maintenance, let out the air by opening a few airlocks throughout the ship, letting her adjust her bulkheads and support beams to the pressure and relax.

It would be like laying down in a sofa after having stood in the same spot for ten hours.
Mmmmmmmm..... :-)=
(Look, my new Abe Lincoln smiley!)

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Here lies a toppled god,
His turnip not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

-Tleilaxu Epigram

[This message has been edited by Nimrod (edited February 26, 2001).]


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Aban Rune
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You mean they couldn't just go back at warp two or warp 3?

Anyway... To me, emergency landing implies it's the last resort if we don't want to die. The Galaxy saucer is designed for emergency landing. If the Deffie is designed that way, and the ship HAS to land, the crew should probably batton down the hatches around the subspace tranceiver, cause they're gonna need help getting home.

Just MHO.

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AndrewR
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What about the reasoning that had been bandied about here before... that the Deffie's landing struts were for landing on pads in those large mushroom starbases and the like.

Andrew

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Aban Rune
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I'd never heard that theory before, but it works for me.

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You don't pull the mask off the ole' Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim."
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Nim
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Oh, I see. Fabrux had to go directly over to jail, so none of his posts counts for two rounds?

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Here lies a toppled god,
His turnip not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.

-Tleilaxu Epigram


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Aban Rune
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Sorry, Fabrux. I can only concentrate on one idea at a time.

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You don't spit into the wind.
You don't pull the mask off the ole' Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim."
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