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Well, I guess it depends on the factors. That's assuming that:
1) the Enterprise-D hasn't been upgraded to be one of the top Starfleet ships ...
2) the Klingons weren't at full defensive/offensive capability fighting the Pasteur
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If it was possible to upgrade the ship so radically, why would she have been in danger of being decommissioned? (Of course, the D would not be the first Enterprise to recieve a radical refit. But then, that Enterprise was quickly relegated to trainee duty.) At any rate, I imagine a new ship designed around those technologies would probably be more capable than a refitted older ship.
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The E-D refit was probably done just to keep Admiral Riker happy - it would have been a pet project, ostensibly perhaps to test some new technologies, but basically just intended to keep an old ship in semi-useful condition because this influential admiral insisted so.
Anyway, the two future ships apparently weren't of Negh'Var class. Apart from the fact that they had no underwing pods (which housed the most devastating weapons of the actual Negh'Var in "Way of the Warrior"), they seemed to be of significantly smaller size in comparison with the Pasteur. Possibly another scaled-to-fit-the-mission design, like the Bird of Prey. The CCG called these the Voodieh class, didn't it?
quote:why would she have been in danger of being decommissioned?
What? When was the E-D in danger of being decomissioned?
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The only thing I can think of is that the ship got herself in a scrape, and instead of spending the time to refit her, Starfleet decided to scrap her.
The Galaxy-Class has a 100-year operational lifetime, so the Enterprise must've been destined for a scrapheap after a big battle, IMHO.
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Timo: Read my first post, man. The Voodieh also has "fangs" which the other didn't. Meant to look scary, I'll bet they're given some token Treknobabble-function so the klingons won't look like complete morons.
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I have to concur with Jeff. There's no way they'd be scrapping Galaxies after only a few decades even if they were no longer the biggest and best. I mean, The Pasteur was evidently built before the Ent D and she was obviously still around. Must've been just the Enterprise.
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I think that out of the surviving Galaxy Class starships in that timeline, the Enterprise took more structural damage and weapons fire. Perhaps that is why the ship was nearly decomissioned.
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In regards to the "scrapped" issue. No matter how long the ship is designed to be functional, that is assuming the ship has had an optimal mission history. Mission damage to the hull plating and/or weapons can be easily repaired/replaced in spacedock during a refit. Any mission)s) which caused severe structural damage (bent or twisted spaceframes), could retire a ship posthaste.
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Just reguarding the "like phasers on a medical ship" issue...
Phasers could also be used on such ships to destroy asteroids... clear away debris to gain access to wounded... drill holes into planets to beam up trapped miners... etc. etc.
I reckon phasers would be one of those "Don't leave spacedock with out them" sort of things.
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Well, there's the flamewar-inducing argument about registry numbers (E-D is 71000 or so, 'xept she has that honorary 1701-D, while Pasteur is a lowly 58925).
The Pasteur also features the squarish lifeboat covers familiar from the E-D and the E-C, but that's not a good indicator of ship age since the low-registered Steamrunners and Akiras have the "modern" triangular pods.
Furthermore, the Pasteur has E-D-style LCARS displays on the bridge, and not the more complex (and IMHO more primitive-looking) E-E style - while at least one future timeline ("The Visitor") suggests new and modern ships of the "AGT" future era should have "non-2D" controls.
It's still difficult to watertightly establish the Pasteur as an older type. But we do know semicanonically that ships of that class did operate back in the TNG era ("Interface"), so at least the Pasteur should not be radically newer than the E-D.
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Semi? Is Interface a book? Then I wouldn't put much cred there. I've always thought the Pasteur really looked futuristic, with that nicely shaped engineering section and such.
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