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"It's really quite simple. The Miranda may not have a dish, but it still has the same emmiters as the Constitution II has around it's dish."
Er, surely the Constitution II has 3 of them, and the Miranda has 2?
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GAH! Where in the universe did you get that idea?! Phaser fire from there? No! Never!!
Okay, finally found Mr. Scott's Guide. And while I KNOW it's considered noncanon, a lot of stuff in here makes relative sense. According to this, those are called space-energy field attraction sensors. According to Ships of the Star Fleet, they are QIK-28 sensor modules.
And about that cluster on the bottom of the saucer, are you referring to the lower navigation dome and associated equipment? Eh, because if you are, the "little white slot" facing forward is something we like to call a "light" in layman's terms. See? It projects onto the hull to make the ship's name and registry visible.
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Well, the front profile of a Constitution II is larger than a Miranda's, therefore, the C II needs 3 emmiters.
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If you take a look at that dorsal view of the Reliant, there ARE three of those sensor/emitter things. Two port and starboard on the surface of the primary hull and one sitting on top of the photon-torpedo pod. All three are identical.
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Sorry Adam. I misread it as "the same NUMBER of thingies".
I will shut up now.
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Daniel, you are absolutely right! I never once noticed that there are three of those devices on the Reliant. I bet those are the Miranda's navigational deflection system since, like Adam proves, those exist on the Constitution refit.
But this still leaves the question open for the Constellations and other culture's ships that have no deflector dish or devices of a similar nature.
Plus, this leads to the questions of the auxiliary crafts. The Type 9/Class 2 shuttles and Data's scout ship have deflector dishes. However, the runabouts and other shuttles (the pods, Type 6/7/8) don't appear to have a navigational deflector system either. Okay, I may be wrong about the runabouts.
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I gather that what we are looking for are devices that can create the beams that sweep the path clear of larger debris. The devices that generate more generic, englobing shields (whether for navigation or combat) can be assumed to be invisible to the exterior, or only manifesting as that "shield grid" that has become inseparable of Sternbach-era starship design.
If we accept the grey domes of the Constitution-refit and the Miranda as the actual sweep-beam emitters, then we could just as well accept the two rather large domes on the underside of the Constellation saucer as similar emitters. They look extremely well placed for such a function, and seem to have similarly flattened/angled forward surfaces. See here: there are two pairs of domes to choose from.
And if we start believing in under-saucer domes, then we have a deflector for USS Centaur, too. That leaves only one TOS-movie era ship without an obvious domed deflector beam emitter - the Excelsior, which has the blue dish but not hte grey domes. OTOH, "Generations" also establishes canonically that the dish *is* called the navigational deflector...
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P.S. "Exhibit C" in that trekbbs.com thread is the one that shows the single ventral aft phasers on the impulse engine assembly, the ones I've been ranting about now and then. Now what the heck happened to those phasers in later versions of the model? Who removed them? Or added them for this photo? Why?
quote:Originally posted by Timo: P.S. "Exhibit C" in that trekbbs.com thread is the one that shows the single ventral aft phasers on the impulse engine assembly, the ones I've been ranting about now and then. Now what the heck happened to those phasers in later versions of the model? Who removed them? Or added them for this photo? Why?
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Good point. Maybe I'm going back there and douse them with cold water.
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What are those 2 blue squares on the side at the Constellation class pic?
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I don't know what the two blue squares on the side are, but there's a large blue rectangle-ish thing on the forward edge of the Constellation's saucer in Timo's pic there...I've always assumed that is the deflector.
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According to the Fact Files this is the shuttle bay.
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Where was I looking? A bit further up on the role bar - 45 mins into Star Trek II the Reliant fires it's phasers from half-way up the support bar that holds the torpedo launchers. I was mistaken - sorry.
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