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I know that the ship was only seen for a few seconds before it blew up;
I know that the viewscreen image of the ship was very small;
I know that most likely it was a reuse of another model instead of a new one;
But could someone, please, post a better screencap of the ship, if at all possible???
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I still say, from all my reviews of the episode, and from all my squinting at the sole screencap, that it's the E-D stardrive section at a 3/4-aft angle.
--Jonah
P.S. Note that this is not what I think the Deneva actually IS, just what model they used for the shot...
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quote:I still say, from all my reviews of the episode, and from all my squinting at the sole screencap, that it's the E-D stardrive section at a 3/4-aft angle.
I find it highly unlikely that they hauled out the huge Enterprise-D model just for a few seconds of filming for a pretty forgettable episode (remember, only the large-sized Enterprise model could seperate), especially at such a far away view.
I like to think that someone made a small, lo-rez model for the Arcos, knowing that it would be barely seen. I'm probably wrong, though. However, there has been a precedent for this in the past (Wolf 359, the Skreean kitbashes, that little spacedock shuttle with nacelles made from disposable razors, etc.)
BTW, did the ship look clearer in the actual episode than it did in the screencap? I'm not about to rent "Legacy" just for that, if the local videostore even carries that particular ep.
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Hate to point this out, but "Legacy" came after "Best of Both Worlds". They had several E-D stardrive sections laying around from their kitbashing parties...
--Jonah
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Right I'll see to this debate as it's an old one thats dragging on and on in one format or another. I'll investigate the footage and make some screencaps. I'll post them here in a little while.
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Damn, I thought you meant you were going to post screencaps of "Legacy." Oh well.
I never thought the Merchantman model was the Deneva class or the Arcos anyway, but nice screencaps nevertheless.
Jonah: True, or someone just bought a new model or scratchbuilt something up.
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I can�t speak for Dukhat, but I would dearly like to see big screencaps of the deneva-class ship, please.
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Red Admiral: Erm... I'm not sure if you understood the point of this debate. No-one's asking whether or not the Merchantman itself was Starfleet. What we want to know is what model was used to represent the Arcos in "Legacy". It was seen as a tiny dot for a few seconds, and then it blew up. No-one's definitively identified the model used yet, but one theory is that it was another re-use of the Merchantman model (that model was used a lot during TNG).
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I did understand the thread, my reply was basically in response to the original thread which queried whether the Merchantman might be a Deneva Class starship. As Deneva class is (supposedly) a Starfleet classification, I simply posted some screencaps to demonstrate the disparate appearance of the Merchantman as opposed to traditional Starfleet design themes.
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) but I could have sworn that it was confirmed as the Merchantman model!
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