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Was it the Valkyrie in "Redemption" (TNG) or was it the Hathaway? I know someone says it was the H. but their registries are similar. (NCC-2593 and NCC-2590)
Shouldn't we know if it's the Valkyrie, because if it is it will be upside down?
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The Valkyrie was not upside-down, it was just displayed that way at some Trek show.
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the Valkyrie model is the same one as the Hathaway (& presumably the stargazer) You can still the faint lettering under the name Valkyrie. Since there is no way you can make out what the registry was onscreen, we must assume that it was NCC-2590, If this was indeed the Valkyrie & not the Hathaway.
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Actually, I looked over that shot of the fleet departing a while ago, and I saw a registry of NCC-259x. (Couldn't make out the last number.) So that would support the Valkyrie theory.
I'm not sure, but I believe that "Redemption" was the last time we saw a Constellation-class ship on screen. So it would stand to reason that they kept the labeling from the last time the model was used, when it went on tour.
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"Actually, I looked over that shot of the fleet departing a while ago, and I saw a registry of NCC-259x. (Couldn't make out the last number.) So that would support the Valkyrie theory."
Erm... Except that it also supports the Hathaway theory, so it doesn't really help...
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I think I can shed some light on this. MMOM suggested I do a screencap of this in the Qualor II thread.
It looks awful, but this isn't an aesthetic image, but an extreme closeup to search for detail, but this is the best, crispest quality I could get.
Looking at this enhanced, and inverted image of the Valkyrie in 'Redemption', it does look indeed like the last digit of the Regsitry apprears to be a three. Have a close look, then move back from the screen then you'll see what I mean.
I myself have the Valkyrie listed on my own site as NCC 2590. But it appears the registry here is NCC 2593, which makes this in fact a reuse of the Hathaway model.
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Nuts! That seriously screws things up, then -- why would they reactivate the Hathaway? Even considering Wolf 359, I don't think Starfleet was that desperate for ships.
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Well, you gotta remember the context of the episode - Picard wanted to assemble a fleet in a matter of days, or even hours. So it'd make sense that they'd get any warp-capable starship they had available, as long as it could be equipped for the tachyon detection grid.
The Hathaway could have been sitting in a yard somewhere closeby when the mission came up; they could have quickly slapped a replacement dilithium crystal assembly in there, pumped a lil' antimatter into the tanks, and had the jalopy ready to go. LaForge had already done a lot of hasty retrofitting work two years previous which could have been used.
Also, the Hathaway wouldn't have been the only ship that wasn't ship-shape; Hobson had the crew of the Sutherland scramling to get the ship marginally operational.
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Monkey-boy: Well, I include it on my list of ships, anyway, just because. I noticed you have the Trinculo on yours. That was never on screen, either.
Y'know, it might make sense that the Hathaway was quickly pulled out of the scrap heap and thrown back into service. That would explain why it didn't actually make it into the detection grid. After all, it wasn't on the computer display, as shown in the Encyclopedia...
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