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Please post your Soyuz class opinions here. My other thread is for discussion of what's wrong in my list.

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There was actually a pretty good discussion on the Soyuz way back in the old forums. My guess is it was some kind of signals intelligence ship used to scout borders and eavesdrop on potential threat forces. Sure the sensors could be used for natural phenomena but wouldn't a science ship be more suited for that?
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Some Soyuz observations:
What was the Bozeman's registry? The Encyclopedia says 1941 and has a shot of the saucer top to back it up. But in the episode we only saw the saucer bottom and that said 1841.

I have the Soyuz entering service in the mid 2270s, along with the Miranda cruisers and the Avenger heavy frigates. I agree with the idea that it's a specialist signals/sensors platform, possibly acting as a co-ordinator for perimiter action ships.

The problem is why were they removed from service in 2287? Had ordinary starship sensors improved, making the specialist platform obsolete? had Starfleet built a large number of outposts along its borders? Was the design flawed in some way?

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Well, I wouldn't say flawed - after all, until we know to the contrary, the Bozeman is now back in service. I'd reckon that the border, once quite fluid, now became static as an uneasy stalemate with the Romulans and Klingons developed. Far easier (and cost-effective in the long run) to put listening posts in place on asteroids and so forth than to maintain a fleet of specialised surveillance ships. How about that listening post that V'Ger got?

As for the improvement in sensors, I hadn't noticed much - but then again, there is evidence: the taps into the comms of the Klingon cruisers that encountered V'ger; far better sensors in the battle with Khan; the viridium patch detected several sectors away. . .


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Bozeman was deployed as a frigate defending the border against Klingons in 2280's.

Soyuz class discontinued as stipulation on peace treaty with Klingon's.

Bozeman in 2370's was refitted and put into service

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No, no, NO! You're using non-canon information from that execrable book! There wasn't any peace treaty in 2288 when the class was withdrawn from service!
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I have no opinion on the Soyuz Class.
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Well, if that is an 8, it's hard to tell.

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I still think that the Soyuz class was flawed and retired early and that the Bozeman in ST7 and ST8 was not the same one...

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*thinks it is the same one, because it would be in perfect condition, almost*

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My theory: The USS Soyuz, Reliant-class was outfitted as a testbed for new sensor pods and such for long-range picket duty on the Klingon border. It soon proved effective, and severalmroe ships were either refitted or built-up to the Soyuz-class. After the Khitomer Accords, the Soyuz-class became less important until their special equipment was moved to new exploration ships like the Excelsior and Galileo-class ships. The Soyuz-class ships were then used for administrative use within the Federation, and also as second-defense ships. Some may have had their Reliant-equipment restored, and they were re-designated Reliant-class.

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By Reliant class I presume you mean Miranda class? There is the fandom Avenger class designation, but I don't think I've ever heard of a Reliant class one.

At any rate, the Khitomer peace conference is suggested to occur in 2293, while the Soyuz was withdrawn in 2288.

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FASA, I think, called it Reliant-class.

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Really? I wonder why they didn't just go with Avenger...that was the consensus at the time, or so I thought.

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The USS Bozeman NCC-1941 is seen visually in the movie First Contact.

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