"Now, there's a ship at the top of the page, above the big Akira. It's on top of an Intrepid and above a Galaxy. It has a blue deflector. I think it's an Ambassador. FYI, it was in "Call to Arms." Or, it's an Excelsior."
That's a Steamrunner.
--Jonah
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No, no, no! It's at the top of the page, at the very top. Place your finger on the deflector of the big Akira in the center, and move it up to where the picture stops. Your finger should be near a ship with nacelles and white lighting, and a light blue deflector dish. That doesn't look like a Steamrunner to me. Watch your tape of "Call to Arms," and it'll be there, towards the top of the screen.
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It's a Steamrunner. Trust us this debate was had a great length a few years back. People that ship was everything from a Constitution to an Oberth. But after much headbanging sane people all agreed that it's a Steamrunner.
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IT IS NOT A STEAMRUNNER! It's got nacelles connected to the main hull by those pylons! It's got a saucer! A STEAMRUNNER DOES NOT! It's a regular ship design, not from FC! A Steamruner has nacelles built into the hull! Someone back me up! The ship at the top of the page, by the Intrepid, is not a Steamrunner! Grrrrr...
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The steamrunner does have a saucer. And that's the engineering/deflector pod not the secondary hull. Those nacelles connect to the upper side of the saucer, you can see that they visually touch the saucer but because this is an underside shot you can't see the distinctive join.
It is a Steamrunner. We've been here before. It's an old, old topic.
-------------------- "My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor
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OK, now that I look at it, I can sort of see the resemblence. Just, could someone enlarge it? That may take me over to the Steamrunner side of the Force.
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Hey, it happens. Nothing is more embarassing than shooting with an unstrung bow, but as long as we keep our heads everything should be able to be worked out.
I, too, fell victim to the insidious optical illusion that is the Steamrunner. I spent the entire summer hiatus after "Call to Arms" aired looping that final fleet shot. It wasn't until I saw that one of those "Constitutions" -- when seen from an oblque angle -- didn't have an interconnecting dorsal. That's when it clicked for me, and I could go back to hunting down the fourth Defiant...
--Jonah
P.S. Little aside, but considering the size of that fleet, the fact that in that huge fleet we had three other Defiants moving in fairly close proximity, and the fact that the original Defiant headed for that spot in particular to fall in... I know it can't be proved or disproved, but I tend to believe that Defiants optimally operate in squadrons (or packs ) of four.
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Um, I may be wrong (I accidentaly taped over most of that scene), but I thought that there were only two other Defiants in that scene, and the Defiant was that third one.
Grrrrr...
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