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The359
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Well, the E-D's shuttlebay doors were closed, probably because there wasn't enough power to open them or something. That, or they just closed the doors after they got the shuttles out...

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PsyLiam
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For some reason, I have to point out that that shuttle has a Romulan warp nacelle buried in the middle of it.

Also, tecnically, wasn't the Danube the TNG era shuttle? (It was in Timescape).

The Hawking model always confused me. I read it was a modification of the shuttle from STV. Wasn't the TNG Type-6 shuttle modified from the STV shuttle? Or did they use the other one?

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The way I look at the shuttles is that some could be from the Enterprise. We know the Hawking is one of those shuttles. They were able to open and close the main shuttlebay doors. How else could the Hawking have gotten out without actually damaging or destroying those doors? The model as far as I know was a modificaion of the other ST5 shuttle model made. (two models made for ST5, one modified to type 6 for TNG, other later modified for Generations). And this is OT but even though they said the saucer was unsalvagable, I believe that for Prime Directive reasons, they would have disassembled the saucer bit by bit and removed it completely from the surface. Maybe Picard was in charge of that between the loss of the E-D and the launch and commissioning of E-E.

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I didn't even see a difference between the ST5 "VIP" (as some people call it) shuttle and the one at the end of Generations.
Where's the difference?

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Apparently only in the paint job.

The design would otherwise nicely fit either of the eras, but the ramscoop domes under the hull look weird in a Kirk-era craft. Fortunately, we didn't get to see them in ST6, so we can pretend the underside of that craft was more consistent with the era (that is, the only large non-white parts would be the blue warp grilles and the yellowish impulse exhausts). Red domes just don't belong to that era, no matter what their function.

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Actually, PopMaze, the planet where the saucer crashed (Veridian III) was uninhabited, so they could just leave it there since no one could see it. That is, unless some alien plant or something fixes it and runs amok in the galaxy with it.

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Actually Veers, I side with Pop maze on this. Since the other planet in the system was inhabited, it would create problems in the future if they came there in primitive spacecrafts and found an advanced starship there.

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You forget that the Federation likes to recycle... I'm sure that Worf brought his sonic shower from his quarters on the Enterprise-D to DS9.

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I have an idea, what if the Faragut's expansion bay was actually fitted to be a large bay? Y'know, for rescue ops.
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That would be a good idea, if I could figure out what you're talking about. Expansion bay? Rescue Bay? Hudson Bay?
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The359
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I think he means the pod on the Farragut. It's always been believered they have been interchangeable for different missions, and there may be a pod for "rescue missions", with large shuttlebays and medical facilities, as well as room to fit all the people (most likely in "barrack" style rooms with multiple beds).

The only problem I see with this is the timeit'd take for the Farragut to change the pod. It didn't seem like there was even a day gone by that the Enterprise-D crew sat there waiting for rescue. Farragut would have to have been close-by to get there, and wouldn't have time to change pods.

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Actually there is a difference between the Hawking in generations & the STV shuttle other than the markings. The STV version has these long protrusions near the rear end of the ship, these are not on the Hawking, also the hawking has 3 windows, the STV shuttle has only 1.



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Didn't the hawking have enterprise type nacelles?

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I see the Hawking NCC-1701-D/15 as an older shuttlecraft. She may have been used on ships of the early to mid 24th century. Prior to 2371, this shuttle was given to the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D for use.

Another way of viewing her-she is an intermediate step between the classless shuttles of the second USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A and the class 6 of the 2360's.


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PsyLiam
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"Didn't the hawking have enterprise type nacelles?"

Er, what are Enterprise-type nacelles? If you mean "refit-consitution nacelles" (hnnng), then, er, it quite obviously does (or it's closer to them than any other design).

"Red domes just don't belong to that era, no matter what their function."

Red domes don't belong on Kirk-era ships? Phew. Good thing no-one ever saw the Enterprise-nil then, eh?
(Yeah, I know, you probably meant movie-era. But I'm in a nitpicking kind of mood today.)

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