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...by flawless-thus-far(tm) tipster dude. We see a Vulcan ship all right next week, and it'll be a ring-based design, presumably resembling the maybe-T'Pau from Unfication.
(the source is one Mr. Morpheus, who seems to be the only impressive (and consistently right) Enterprise tipster online. Unfortunately, he seems to limit his spoiling to popping up on threads at TrekBBS rather than actually sending in scoops to websites. But his record thus far has been flawlesss an he's clearly quite close to the set as far as access is concerned.)
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Great! That finally gives a decisive majority of two classes of ships for that configuration, over the one long-nacelled warpshuttle and the one pod-engined lander. Perhaps we can nail this down as the Vulcan way to build ships.
Less than great if it's simply a reuse of the T'Pau model. Or an unnoticeably subtle modification thereof. Noticeably subtle ones I could live with.
I hope the ship comes with its own shuttle design. Again, I could live with a minor modification of the TMP shuttle... Then again, it would also be interesting to see what sort of transporters the Vulcans might have.
A little detail I missed when reading about "Unexpected": did the Klingons have transporters? Or did they board the ship using an unseen shuttle, or perhaps the Enterprise shuttle?
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I think the long nacelled warp shuttle fits with the Vulcan designs from Unification... that middle fuselage section has those buffed ends and the plated appearance that fits the warp-sled AND the Unification ships. The ring doesn't feature - of course - on the warp sled. The ring reminded me of the Vulcans having ties - historical ties - to the Romulan way of making things.
Andrew
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For what it's worth, I think the long-nacelled warp shuttle isn't a Vulcan design at all. It was, after all, designed to be the generic Starfleet shuttle (see the unused landing bay matte paintings). The Vulcans are surely capable of operating ships they didn't design themselves, right?
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The shuttle popped up as a generic Starfleet or Federation design.. but i think its possible the warp sled could have been of a more specific Vulcan origin.. the tapering of the nacelles made me think that for some reason
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This looks better than I dared hope. Not only is it daringly innovative (and not only in comparison with the Akiraprise and the whole D-7 debacle), it also makes dramatic and technobabblic sense.
That ship looks so superior to the NX-01 that it hurts. And the ringlike propulsion system is both alien and consistent with one-third of what we know of Vulcan propulsion systems, yet with TOS-like simple roundness in place of the very TNG-style flattened, angular, "sporty" design of the T'Pau.
Also, this ship here just radiates power in comparison with the T'Pau, as ought to be when we pit an apparent warship and a freighter against each other. The coloration suggests a connection with the reddish lander, as do the curved hull lines; Vulcans are not immune to the lures of aesthetics, even if their freighters tend to be on the dull side.
Anybody think Rick S will sue the designer for stealing one of his original Voyager ideas?
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Lesee here... The Closed Captioning calls it the Suurok-class Ti'Mur, though there could be some spelling errors in there. The pointy end is pointed to the fore. Top speed of warp 6.5. It's got a tractor beam, but that and the warp nacelles are classified technology, to Trip's dismay.
We only see the typical one-wall set for a bridge, which is grey and red behind a wider than usual command chair the Captain, Vanik, sits in.
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There have been several instances in Star Trek where the closed captioning really botches alien words. Mark, if you think you heard them say "Surak" then I'll take your word for it (at least until I see the ep tonight). Need I remind anyone that there's a 24th century Starfleet Surak class starship?...
Also, in "The Andorian Incident," Archer pronounces Surak "Surik".
I of course am extremely happy with the new Vulcan ship design. When I first saw it, it reminded me of the ring-ship Enterprise in TMP.
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Sometimes I wonder if the closed captioning comes from the script, and if the scripts spell alien words phonetically, so that the actors know how to pronounce them.
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