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I didn't know this book was already out. Need to get it.
Although I have to agree, it does screw up the issue of chronological registries regarding the Akira and Prometheus.
I've always believed the Akira came around the 2350s. I have 2365 on my site, which came from Bernd who's a good judge of info. And if I put only my own opinions in, then my site would be no better than Daystrom Tech. Institute.
Some fans I talk to refuse to believe their vaunted Akira-class, with it's 50 torpedo launchers, predates the Galaxy-class believing it's heresy to think their favorite ship could be old.
As far as the Prometheus mess, I've already said it before. NX-74913: Seen on MSD and Dedication Plaque. NX-59650: Seen on hull. Regardless both were on screen, granted the MSD and DP weren't as visible. But since Okuda made them, has some idea of what he's doing I'll take his registry over the NX-59650 made by Foundation Imaging.
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quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike: Well, maybe i should have said 'semi-canon'. I was under the assumption that the authors of Starship Spotter worked on the actual creation of the ships for the filmed productions, and therefore are a good source of previously unseen data that is true to the the technical details of the ships as created for the shows.
Depends on your definition of "author." Most of the technical specs, for isntance, were created by Alex Rosenzweig, almost verbatim from the "Dockyard Review" material extrapolated from Ships of Star Fleet. Perhaps Mojo can help clear up just who did what.
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes: Some fans I talk to refuse to believe their vaunted Akira-class, with it's 50 torpedo launchers, predates the Galaxy-class believing it's heresy to think their favorite ship could be old.
I refuse to believe that the Akira has 15 torpedo tubes, period.
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Except that we know that the actual model of the ship DOES have 15 torpedo launchers, and since the model was seen on screen...
...well, you know the rest.
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And the E-nil didn't have ANY torp tubes on the model, the359! I say the Ds9 Tech Manual is correct in saying the Akira has two tubes, and I also say that this was a new design at the point of First Contact along with the Steamrunner, Saber, and Norway, designed to combat the Borg.
But then, nobody cares what I say...
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The Enterprise's photon torpedo launchers were behind covers...that's in the Starship Spotter too I believe.
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Until I actually see the Akira fire all 15 of its tubes on screen, I'm going with the number 2, which we actually did see fire. IMO, the Akira had enough chances on screen to be shown blazing away with its ungodly large number of tubes, but it never does it. Why didn't it alpha strike the Borg cube, or the Prometheus, or those Warbirds? Same with the hypothetical "fighter bay", where are those fighters?
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Referring back to the original list of potential errors: if the Sovereign has three launchers, then Mojo/Alex probably counts two adjoining tubes as one launcher. Using that logic, an Akira with 15 tubes might have something like four (one pod launcher with umpteen tubes, one bow launcher with four, and the sideways launchers) or two (the multitude of saucer tubes is actually counted as one integrated launcher).
However, then a Constitution refit would have one launcher, and a Miranda might have either one or two. Since nobody has come yelling "there are two tubes in a Constitution refit, not one!" I gather that this "system" was not adhered to, either.
I'd happily accept the Constellation, the Republic and the Eagle as ships not belonging to the Constitution class, since two of the three were never seen and the third was visibly (if only slightly) different from the Enterprise. I'm also happy with a 2273 TMP, but agree with the other original nits.
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Someone have the episode? I'm pretty sure thats the way it was
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