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Nevod
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Does it have any real difference from transwarp, aside from colour?

I think that 'stream is subspace vortex of some sort, where ship moves by warp drive.

While transwarp generates set of carrier waves and warp drive is used to 'sail' on them...

So, what do ya think?

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Aban Rune
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I think that all methods of FTL travel are going to have similarities. There seem to be various methods of traveling at Transwarp and various things that are meant by the term Transwarp. Slipstream seems to have similarities to ceratin kinds of transwarp travel.

The Carrier Waves part isn't based on anything that I've heard of. In Trek, transwarp has been everything from a super-dooper form of warp drive (ST:2) to Warp 10 (Threshold) to some kind of subspace tunneling system (the Borg...sometimes).

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The Voth had Transwarp drive

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MinutiaeMan
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Here's my take:

- Transwarp is simply a faster form of warp travel, like the Voth used. (And like the Borg used in episodes like "Scorpion.")

- The "transwarp conduits" are an inaccurate layman's term for some kind of naturally-occurring or induced "subspace wormhole."

- The quantum slipstream is a temporarily generated subspace tunnel, similar to transwarp conduits, but it's small -- it doesn't last longer than the ship that generates it. Basically, a ship operating on QS carries the wormhole with them.

Crude descriptions, I know, but that's how I think of them.

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Aban Rune
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I pretty much agree with those descriptions...I also pretty much tend to completely disregard the events in "Threshold".

[Big Grin]

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"Threshold"? What's that? [Roll Eyes] [Wink]

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I recall no episode by that name. Let's cease speaking of it immediately.

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OnToMars
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I make a motion that we never speak of that episode by its name again. Like "the Scottish play" we shall refer to it only as "that reptillian episode".

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Here is how I thought warp and transwarp drives worked, once upon a time:

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Sol System
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Okay bub, "Threshhold" is a season 2 Voyager episode has to absolutely be the worst episode of Star Trek ever made (besides movie 5), because of its awful and implausible story, and that we are supposed to believe that a small crew stranded in a distant part of the Galaxy with few resources succeeded in what thousands of Federation engineers failed to do in nearly 100 years Here is a synopsis of the episode. Those with weak stomaches and faint hearts, turn back now. The Voyager crew, ever eager to get home, outfits the shuttle craft Cochrane with a Transwarp drive, which could theoretically propel it to warp 10, infinite speed, and Tom takes out the shuttle under orders, and successfully takes it to Transwarp, but as a side effect of going to warp 10, and thus being everywhere in the universe at once, he starts evolving into a giant lizard thing. The Doctor stabalizes him, but Tom breaks out of Sickbay, kidnaps Captain Janeway, and takes her and the Cochrane to warp 10. Three days later, Voyager finds them as small Komodo-Dragon like lizards with three babies on a jungle planet. They take mutated Janeway and Paris onboard, and the Doctor resequences what Human DNA they have left, so that they both devolve back into Humans. That wasn't so painful now, was it? Now let's never speak of this again.

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Dukhat
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Thank you for giving us information that every single one of us already knows.

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Actually, the worst part of the episode is the fact that there was no reason they couldn't use the warp-10 drive to get home. Jump the ship to warp 10, pull out at Earth, have the HoloDoc do his thing to un-lizard everyone, and the show's over.

Usually, they find a way home, then find out why they can't (or shouldn't) use it, so they're still stranded. This time, they found a way home, and just didn't bother to use it.

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Well, how was the Doc supposed to get to everybody? He didn't get his portable holoemitter until Future's End in the third season.

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Fry- How will we get out of this?
George Takei's head- Maybe we can use some kind of auto-destruct code like one-A, two-B, three-C...
(Bender's head blows up)
Bender- Now everybody knows!
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If they could make it all the way to Earth, I'm sure that any Federation doctor in the neighborhood would be able to cure the crew, given instructions from the Doctor.

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