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Mojo
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I don't know if this topic has already been discussed, but I'd love to hear your theories.

I'm also curious if any Trek writers have ever made suggestions...


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They come from Borgon.

Nice little place, kind of mechanical these days.

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Sweden. Which they share with another race, the Smorgas.
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The Borg are definately not Sweedish, maybe once a drone was Sweedish before assimilation.

My Insane Borg Theory:
Many here in the flare board believe that the Borg came about from a planet, so do I. But I believe that the Borg started out as a way for a race to enhance their lifespan, much like how people try to look for that fountain of youth. Doing this required having implants distributed throughout the species' body. Unfortuantely something went wrong either through mechanical or biological means.

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*recalling the now defunct 'You Can't Do That on Star Trek' webpage that pictures the Sweedish Chef assimilated, with a laser eye, and saying "B�rg b�rg b�rg"

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pretty much as they are described by Guinan back when they were still 'keeping them mysterious'.. after Descent, most Borg material out there really changes their premise. The orginal Borg were changed into more emotional, dramatic beings after First Contact, because of the addition of the queen to their milieu. Imagine the quiet fury the Borg had, like a force of nature. The queen really stole the focus after that making the Borg characters rather than a story device, which detracts from their mystique.
Actually these explanations cover both type of B�rgs mentioned here

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Maybe, someone created Borg as autonomous weapon, but Borg assimilated their creators...

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Assuming this little bit of info is related a certain little book, mightn't it be worth considering that the Starfleet of the 24th or even 25th century mightn't know where the Borg came from?

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Modification of the T2 theory: artificial intelligence network goes awry, builds constructs, somehow in course of conflict constructs end up being merged with "leftover flesh" due to experiments &/or parts shortage, resultant combination found to be far superior to pure artificiality. Assimilative hilarity ensues.

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Given how often Voyager encountered the Borg, how much we probably downloaded from them over the years AND that we have 7 of 9, I'm assuming Starfleet knows pretty much everything there is to know about the Borg - including their history.

There's one intriguing idea I like that I'll probably go with, but I was curious to hear what everyone here thought - of it it's been discussed elsewhere.


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It strikes me that the simplest and, in my opinion, most interesting (and relevant) origin for the Borg is that they were just another sentient species that crossed a Vingeian Singularity.

And they think we'd really, really like to join them.

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IIRC, the only thing we know about the Borg's past is that the Vaudwaar didn't find them all that impressing about 9000 years ago.

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Timo
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That's 900 years ago, and what do the Waadwaur know anyway? Humans didn't find the Borg all that impressive 900 years before TNG, either. [Wink]

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Did you want to know where the Borg CAME from... or how they BECAME!?!

Wasn't there a recent thread about this - the only info that we ever had that they came from the Delta Quadrant before "Scorpion" was the first Encyclopaedia where it says that the Borg are from the Denkiri arm of the Milky Way Galaxy.

Any Borg history, I'd go with Guinan over the Vaadwaur.

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The deal with the Waadwaur apparently was that the writers wanted to show us how this seemingly victimized race in fact was rather scary. I mean, they see a Borg and say "Oh, a Borg. I've seen them around."... *Then* we learn these people have huge stockpiles of weapons. While the *Borg* might not think much of the Waadwaur, the *heroes* and the *audience* should be pretty scared of them by that point.

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