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...except if every time anyone who had an inane question emailed it to DD, he'd quickly throw his hands in the air, begin screaming, start intentionally designing starships for Enterprise with 24th century markings, and never answer any questions of general interest to the fanbase ever again.
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I suspect they probably picked the Centaur because it's the most reasonable/best painted/lit, and generally more filmable than the others.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: I suspect they probably picked the Centaur because it's the most reasonable/best painted/lit, and generally more filmable than the others.
Obviously since the script called for a ship called Centaur.
I assume you mean they picked the Mirandized Excelsior plastic model for the reasons you stated.
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quote:Which is why I say the model was built to represent one ship, and then just happened to be used for the Centaur as well. SO there are two ships. The first is whatever ship the model was labeled as, and the other is the Centaur.
I understand what you're saying, & I apologize if I came off as a bit harsh. But here's my point: What if Drexler comes back saying that the ship's name reads "U.S.S. Assfuck"? Are we really supposed to take this seriously? In a word, no. The purpose of naming & building these ships was in no way similar to what was done for BoBW. In that case, those ships were indeed supposed to represent what was written in the script, and also to represent "real" Starfleet ships. That's why Okuda labeled them as such, & put them in the Encyclopedia shiplist. These DS9 kitbashes were not supposed to have been taken seriously at all, names or designs. That's why it's not a big deal to me that a ship with an advanced Intrepid primary hull has old-fashioned Connie nacelles. That's also why it's not a big deal for me to know what was really written on the Centaur's hull.
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Mike Okuda said it was on one of the Excelsior-prototype-models when they arrived from ILM. It's in the interview section of Bernd's article.
quote:I didn't do numbers on the McQuarrie or the George models. Bill [George] and/or his cohorts at ILM did some simple lettering on their models; I remember one of them was labeled the "Alka-selsior."
Note that he does NOT say it was labeled as such by any of his colleagues, (as frequently stated) but rather by the people at ILM.
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Alka-selsior came from one of the Excelsior study models originally made for ST3. There is no U.S.S. in front of it and the name only came to light when we began recieving info on the models used for the Wolf 359 effects shots.
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They still could've relabeled it, but didn't. Actually, I wonder why they went to such pains to label the classes at all?
Anyway, it's not a big deal. I was looking at some possibilities in Google, and the name here could be Rugrats (most likely, made by Paramount), Duckats (gold coins, but it's not a proper name, so I don't know...), Rockats (a rockabilly band from the 50s), Cockats (a Scottish family name), etc.
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quote:U.S.S. Alka-selsior is a serious name from the script?
I was referring to the five study models Ed Miarecki was contracted to build, not the extraneous other old models thrown in just for effect.
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