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The First One
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There was a scene in an episode when Kira tells Sisko that the new runabout has arrived, and she asks him what he wants to call it. He chooses a name on the spot.

Now, how the hell can he do that? I mean, there must be hundreds if not thousands of Danube-class runabouts. . . unless it's only a DS9 tradition to actually name them after rivers, then surely there might be another runabout somewhere with the same name? Heck, even a proper starship!

But there's more. . . we've argued about registry numbers, and one of the things I believe is that the reason they've got so high is because of small ships like runabouts. But. . . I think the registry of the USS Danube is known and canon? And that it's in the 70,000s? Yet, after 5 years, numbers have only gone from the 74,000s (the Defiant, NX-74205) to the mid-75,000's (the Sao Paulo, NCC-75633) - despite the large numbers of runabouts they must have built.

There can be only one of two explanantions for this:

1) Most runabouts are assigned to starships and don't have registries (whether the one from the E-D in "Timescape" had one we don't know), only those assigned to Starbases etc.

2) The Sao Paulo isn't that new. Even so, registries can't have got much higher than the 76,000s which still isn't a great increase.

Well, they are just outsized shuttles, so we may never know.

Now, there's also the possible renaming of the Sao Paulo as the Defiant-A. Again, done by Sisko. I sincerely hope not, for personal, aesthetic and logical reasons. The first two are obvious, the latter needs explaining:

*scene from "The Best of Both Worlds"*

Picard: "She's a good ship, Will."

Riker: "Nah, that was the other Melbourne, which Captain Murgatroyd renamed as the Hilda after his wife. THIS Melbourne used to be the Gerratana, and when Captain Aden took it over he decided he preferred the name Melbourne. And who wouldn't?"

Picard: "My god, you're right. Forget that then. That ship's such a dog, it wouldn't last five minutes against the Borg before getting its saucer half blown off."

. . . where's it going to end? And suppose they start changing registries too? Complete chaos! Mind you, it would explain TSN's fave two subject's, the Nebula Melbourne and the Yamato's registry. . . 8)

Thoughts?


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Trinculo
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My thoughts-
I prefer the naming system of the American navy. In that system, no captain can name a ship. I do not want to see the USS Sao Paolo renamed the USS Defiant. If the new ship is to be the USS Defiant, then why destroy the second USS Defiant?

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The Sao Paolo?

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Elim Garak
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Galen: See "$$ MAJOR SPOILER! DS9's New Ship! $$".

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TSN
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Well, I think he can go ahead and call it "Defiant", if he wants to, but it wouldn't be official. Those of you who read The Return (I think it was that one), remember how they renamed the Monitor "Enterprise" toward the end? It wasn't official, as far as Starfleet was concerned, but that didn't really matter to them (i.e. those who renamed it).

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Sisko can call the Sao Paulo whatever he wants, but thats just his name. Whether Sisko likes it or not, it has an official name. But if he wants to call it the Defiant for sentimental reasons, there isnt much anyone can do to stop him.

As for the new runabout.....why wouldn't it have been named already before arriving at DS9? That seems kind of odd that Starfleet would let their captains just pick a name from anywhere....

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Is "The Return" one of the infamous Shatner novels?

Anyway, I think only Starfleet Command should be aithorized to name and number ships.

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Siegfried
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It is indeed, Bernd.

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Actually, it's one of those infamous Reeves-Stevenses novels that have Shatner's name and face on them... :-)

And I think SF is the only body authorized to number ships, but, since they aren't named until later, they probably let captains name them sometimes. I mean, why would they worried about the name of a runabout that's more thatn likely to be blown up in a couple weeks? :-)

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Elim Garak
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"I name thee the (non-Rio Grande name)."

*bottle hits hull*

::BOOM!::

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Federation Shipmaster
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It's probably some committee in Starfleet Command.

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Your probably right.....imagine some of the crazy off-the-wall names they'd get if they allowed captains to name ships at their pleasure...

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I get to rename ships eh? Kewl.

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