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This is my idea of the trrop transport (I mentioned it above), if you like it, maybe I'll expand it and make a real drawing (this one is a 5-minute-sketch, only to show you the basic idea).
Sorry being off-topic, will be back later;
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For a modern counterpart for the multi-purpose Fast Combat Support Ships, now, in Trek a Nebula-Class would/could fill this roll, especially the combat part......
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Given the modular design of the Nebula, presumeably it wouldn't be too hard for Starfleet to design a transport/armoury/refueling attatchment to go on that pylon. Granted, it would probably be large and ugly but I'm not sure that'd stop Starfleet...
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When I read in the E-D blueprints booklet that Andy Probert had originally designed the "battle section" to be a small ship that dropped out of the bottom of the saucer like the yacht, I did a bit of thinking & actually incorporated this into a physical model. It worked, & quite well. I should refine the design a bit one day.
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There might have been more screens, but when watching the movie I had assumed this screen represent their full complement.
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I've just read one of the Double Helix books (yeah, yeah, I know, not canon) and they describe a Combat Support Tender; it is 200 metres long and has three decks and is described as being a 'heavy-laden, multipurpose vessel made to support more specialised Starfleet vessels. We carry structural and weapons-repair specialists, material, fuel, ammunition and dry stores.' At one point is is also said to have an 'asteroid breaker bow'. Thoughts?
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I also had an idea for a troop transport/planetary assault transport/colony ship. My design tries to focus on dual-use capabilities, because the Federation doesn't like to maintain full time combat support vessels, especially ones of invasive nature, I have to sell the design as a part-time colony ship.
The class would have been a new hull design (a generally box-like structure to maximize internal space), but with certain reused components like Ambassador class nacelles (I'm not kitbashing, simply trying to keep costs down). The length would be somewhere in the 500-600m range.
Defensive shielding comes from uprated shield generators taken off old Ambassador class ships. Same with the weapons and torpedoe launcher to keep cost down. The phasers are modified for better performance against surface targets at the price of being less effective against starships, and are intended for precision ground support in war or drilling for ore or water in peace. The torpedoe launchers would deploy probes in peacetime to help colonists chart and study whatever they need to. In war time... Well, you know. In any case, most of her weapons are located in a position for planetary bombardment, and her shields are focused to protect against planetary defenses. She isn't suppose to fight starships.
Extra hull protection is provided by a layer of resiliant external plating. This plating is not actually standard armor but large sheets of pre-fabricated materials which can be removed and used for construction of orbital facilities or transported down to the planet surface for ground facility constructions. This saves internal cargo space for other things. It also makes the return trip quicker because of the reduced mass.
There would be large internal cargo holds/living areas (they're inter-exchangable with simple modifications) to accommondate either troops or colonists (I'm thinking ~12000 as a good load). Since the vessel is intended for long colony transport voyages, there would be holodecks available to keep the colonists occupied (and would be used for training practice in combat).
She'd have more secondary power than a Galaxy class starship from having many spare fusion reactors onboard, which are hooked up to the ship during transit to help run the extra lifesupport and holodecks, and off-loaded upon reaching her destination to help support newly-established colonies or ground bases. The extra power isn't needed once the colonists/troops are off.
There would be a large shuttle bay that can be used to deploy anything from work bees to strike fighters to assault shuttles to orbital weapons to components for weather control satellites. She can deploy subspace relay stations for colonies she's about to plant herself. There would also be extensive machine shops onboard to help this.
Most of the transporters onboard will be large capacity cargo transporters. The main method of transporting ground troops would be assault shuttles, since it's likely a defending planet would have some sort of transporter scrambler setup. The cargo transporters are also useful for getting bulk equipement and supplies down at the price of being less efficient for transporting people.
There would be also 4-6 special extra large assault/transport shuttles, each capable of ferrying at least one combat hoppers plus ground to the surface (think LCACs). Because of their size, they are stored in special slots on the hull, rather than taking up space in the shuttle bays. In peacetime they can help ferry bulk colonist equipment.
A ship like this is best suited for establishing colonies quickly, or assaulting well-garrisoned enemy holdings.
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quote:3 decks and 200 meters would suggest that that kind of ship must be even more crowded than a Defiant class ship.
Faulty logic. It would only be crowded if it had a large crew. In the book it had a command crew of maybe a dozen, and a unit of engineers. Figure 25-35 people onboard, and its not too bad. Plus, it wasn't a cruising vessel, and as a (combat) utility ship, it might have been docked when not in use, so the crew 'goes home to sleep' rather than using the quarters aboard often (like the Defiant)
Besides, you dont even know the width.. if it were 500 meters wide, itd have plenty of room
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quote:Originally posted by Wraith: Given the modular design of the Nebula, presumeably it wouldn't be too hard for Starfleet to design a transport/armoury/refueling attatchment to go on that pylon. Granted, it would probably be large and ugly but I'm not sure that'd stop Starfleet...
Why not just as a dock for the Defiant class... for added security in hostile situations - i.e. the Dominion war... turns one ship into two...
Thinking about the ships that could do this, I think the Defiant is the only on (we've seen) with the shape that could pull this off. I guess it all depends as to what comes out the top of that 'stalk' of the Nebbie.
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