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Welcome one and all to Thread #947 of "I Feel Like a Bad Ass Because I Make Fun of Newbies So That No One Will Know That I Secretly Masturbate to the Teletubbies!"
Since I don't recognize some of those ships, I'm guessing that they came from novels, comics, and magazines. The registries from those sources aren't wrong as far as the source's author(s) are concerned. However, as far as official Star Trek canon is concerned, they are not to be considered "accurate" until they appear in some form in a Trek series or movie. Basically, if it came from the screen, then we can all agree on it. If not, they we cannot. Keep in mind that this is the watered-down Readers' Digest version of The Way Things Be.
Now, we know that the starships Sovereign, Intrepid, Sabre, Norway, Apollo, Andromeda, New Orleans, Sarek, and Nebula exist because they are class ships. Having a class of that name generally means that the prototype was named for the class. While the names can be considered canon and official, the registries for them are not (at least at this point since it's never been addressed or resolved on-screen). As an example, I've seen three different but popular registries for the Sovereign.
Some of the other ships you have listed here are canon since they appeared on-screen in some form. Hunting down registries for them will be easier. I don't think the Sitak or Cortez's registries were ever offered, but I do think that the Lakul, Drake, etc, did have their registries appear on a computer screen. Some good places to check would be the encyclopediae, Star Trek Ships Expanded, Ex Astris Scientia, and in the archives of this forum. Keep in mind that there are some minor disagreements (like the real registry of the Yamato, Prometheus, Farragut, etc).
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quote: Welcome one and all to Thread #947 of "I Feel Like a Bad Ass Because I Make Fun of Newbies So That No One Will Know That I Secretly Masturbate to the Teletubbies!"
All i ask is to become a useful member of this board. Even with spelling errors. Hell i will try to improve them but everyone does not know how to spell every word. I sucked at english.
Now with the rest of the story i found this site seems like it has most that i found over the years http://home.t-online.de/home/matthias.bieniek/schiffsregister.htm Seems like i got the sovereign from the ds9 tech or something along those lines intrepid from maybe the ds9 tech manual USS Danube NX-72003 from the ds9 tech USS Sarek NCC-72801 Galaxy Class maybe? I cant remember the kitty hawk reg. in a book seems like it was a Miranda
Im not all offical CANON person just include the tech manuals and the published books with half way decent designs. Any novals, episodes, behind the scenes and such.
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You definitely did not get the Sovereign and Intrepid registries from the DS9TM. They aren't in there. No official numbers exist for those. There were some rumors that Sternbach came up w/ numbers (though I don't think anyone could prove he ever said them, and he doesn't recall them), but those aren't even the numbers you have.
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Don't worry about it, Akira. That first part of my post was directed to those posters who think it's "cool" to harrass new posters because they don't have master's degrees in English.
I think TSN's right about the Sovereign and the Intrepid. Supposedly, Sternbach is rumored to have suggested NCC-74222 and NCC-74600 for them, respectively. I don't know about the Sovereign registry, but he recently denied being the source of the Intrepid's supposed registry. The Danube, on the other hand, was in the DS9 Tech Manual and is NCC-72003.
Non-canon stuff is fun and can fill in the gaps that the writers of the canon stuff can't get to, but it sure does get confusing. Between the novels and the series, I think there are like three different starships named Intrepid running around.
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I overlooked this thread as well. hmph.
BTW the best way to prove or disprove ships we have no reference for is to start researching the sources. I'd do lots of Google searches for the registries, see where they came from.
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Sternbach maintains NCC-74600 for the Intrepid. Why he didn't use in his ST:TM article, I don't know...
According to Alex Rosenzweig, Okuda "more or less okayed" NCC-75000 for the Sovereign, for use in the Starship Spotter, but the editors of that book said Alex couldn't use it.
And Siggie, the Danube is NX-72003, not NCC.
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That is true, but it's probably a moot point with regards to the USS Danube anyway. I mean, the odds aren't exactly in the runabout's favor of living long enough to get rid of its NX.
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The only reason the Defiant kept it's NX designation was because it continued to be a prototype platform... Starfleet continued to put new systems on the ship and try out different things, something that they don't exactly do with every ship in the fleet.
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There is no canon number for the USS Intrepid, but people lean towards NX-74600
USS Sarek NCC-72081/71866?
We've never had a registry number for the USS Sarek mentioned in "Favor The Bold"
USS Andromeda NX-68807
There is no canon registry number for the USS Andromeda
USS Apollo NX-11550
There is no canon registry number for the USS Apollo
USS Nebula NX-60122/60420
There is no canon registry number for the USS Nebula, although NX-60420 would be impossible due to the USS Honshu being NCC-60205.
USS Sitak NCC?
We haven't been given a canon registry number for the Sitak yet, so technically you're right
USS Whorfin NFT-1300?
There is a USS Whorfin NCC-1024, but if you are implying that your Whorfin is the first ship of the Whorfin class, then we don't know the registry for that one.
USS Robert Fox NFT-1327
Correct
USS Lakul NFT-7793
Correct
Uss new Orleans nx-52784
There is no canon registry number for the USS New Orleans
Uss tawein ncc-54115/26510 Springfield class
I have no clue what that word is...
Ss nenebek nar-6389
The SS Nenebek is NAR-2066
Ss yridian XLT-3069
The unnamed Yridian transport has a registry of YLT-3069, but I can tell you it is not "SS Yridian" (Yridians are a race).
USS?????? Ncc71325
Correct registry from the unnamed shuttle in "Caretaker".
SS Erewoh BDR-525
There is no canon registry for the SS Erewon
SS Santa Miria BDR-529
Correct (SS Santa Maria)
USS Cumberland NCC-7170
I've never heard of this ship or it's registry
USS?????? NCC-40273
No clue what ship this is supposed to be
USS Cortez
Um...yeah...no registry for it.
USS Antietam NCC-11372 Apollo class
This ship doesn't exist (canonically)
USS Albatawny NCC-23452 Ambassador
The USS Al-Batani NCC-42995 is an Excelsior class starship
USS Vanguard NCC-2548 Constellation
No such ship (canonically)
USS Nile NCC-72459
No such ship
USS Mississippi NCC-72455
No such ship
USS Amazon NCC-72456
No such ship
USS Alacrity NCC-1881 Miranda
No such ship
USS Yellowstone NX-74751
Correct
USS Norway Nx-62341
No canon registry for the USS Norway
?? Sanction Antares Class
I don't know about this one, I seem to remember a ship named Sanction but I know nothing about it.
USS Sarajevo NCC-38529
Correct
USS Titan NCC-742 Oberth
No such ship
USS Pegasus NCC-71801 Nebula Class
No such ship
USS Hotspur NCC-74659
No such ship
USS Polo Daro NCC-61914
No such ship
USS Kitty Hawk NCC-1770/1799/1865
No such ship
USS Harbinger NCC-63698 Akira Class Stealth 63699 " " USS Deathwatch 63701 " "
I believe these all came from Utopia Planitia. In other words, they all don't really exist.
USS Reliant 63241 Norway Class USS Visigoth 70110 Norway
Again, from Utopia Planitia, don't really exist
USS Langley NCC-1915-B Leavenworth (also destroyed in Wolf 359 in some game)
Name rings a bell, but again, not canon
USS Hoagland NCC- Miranda
I think we covered this
USS Hiroshima Streamrunner
From the Encyclopedia II. No registry
USS Idaho NCC43261 Excelsior Class
I think this comes from Starfleet Academy?
USS Saber NX-60221
Again, no canon registry for the USS Saber
USS Gala NCC-40213 Excelsior
No clue
USS Airy Wave NCC-905
No clue
USS Destiny
No registry given for this ship
USS Lexington 61832(nebula class)
Correct
USS Honshu Nebula Class
USS Honshu NCC-60205
USS Musashi
No registry or class
USS Olympia
No registry or class
USS Sarek
No registry or class
USS Sentinel
No registry or class
USS Shenandoah (Danube)
USS Shenandoah NCC-73024
USS ShirKahr 31905 Miranda
Correct
USS Wyoming
No registry or class
USS Billings
No registry or class
USS Concord NCC-68711 Freedom
Correct
USS Drake NCC-70956 Andromeda
Correct
USS Okinawa NCC-13958 Excelsior
Correct
USS Tecumseh NCC-14934 Class Unknown
Correct, but Excelsior class
USS Rhode Island??????
USS Rhode Island NCC-72701, Nova Class
USS Righteous NCC-47451
From a computer game
USS Viking Norway
No clue
USS Endeavour Nebula
USS Endeavour NCC-71805
This is my Wolf 359 Ship List
Melbourne Bellerophn Yamaguchi Bonestell Oberth NCC-31600 Saratoga Kyushu Tolstoy Ahwahnee Buran Checkhov Firebrand Princeton Liberator Nebula NCC-67016 (Liberator's class never given) Gage NCC-40273????? (Don't know a ship with that number) USS Roosevelt NCC-2573 Excelsior USS Righteous NCC-47451 (Not Canon, was not there) USS Intrepid Excelsior NCC-38907 (Was not there) Agamemnon NCC-11638 Apollo (Was not there) Monitor Nebula 61826 (Was not there) Langley (Not canon, was not there) Southerland (Was not there) USS Hoagland Miranda (Not canon, was not there)
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quote: Funny, i do have an NCC-40273 in my outdated ship list. I have it under Excelsior class.
this number i have had for upteen years i have no clue were it is from
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Akira: Say, you wouldn't happen to have class names for all of those ships, besides the ones we know, would ya? Or dare say... designs? Or, this is pushing it, would you let me design some of them? BTW, most of what I do are kitbashes, and you can have a preview here. And I do histories and stuff( here and here ) so if you would like them PM me.
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