quote:as some have pointed out to me, the Enterprise did have consoles that said Transwarp
No, Shane Johnson faked these transwarp bridge displays for his book "Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise".
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Really? You sure they weren't authentic, Spikey? I thought I remembered Johnson claiming they were, after being accused of altering them.
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Check questions 12 and 13. I do agree with Shane Johnson's reasoning on this one... heck, he had no idea what TNG or future movies would bring.
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If Johnson's info is truthful, I find it ironic that the producers at the time decided against the Enterprise-A being an Excelsior class out of fan distaste, only to have the Enterprise-B end up as an Excelsior years later.
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"Pregnant guppy"? Isn't the term "pregnant" usually reserved for things that are overly fat and rounded/lumpy? Not for a design that was the sleekest and most streamlined we had seen SF use so far?
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I admit I don't like the original Excelsior class very much. But it's not that bad. Only I always thought something was missing on that ship.
Funnily enough, the SFX guys added just these details I missed on the original when they turned it into the Excelsior refit for Generations. I therefor prefer the Enterprise-B type Excelsior ships.
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The Excelsior had the odds stacked against her, really. In ST3, she was introduced as the baddie ship, and the design certainly reflected the "barnyard bully" nature somewhat - especially the bulging secondary hull that was made all the much more "muscular" by using a teeny weeny deeply inserted deflector dish. The chase scene between the Excelsior and the Enterprise relied a lot on the visual impression of a petite, "feminine" E escaping the burly, brawny hitman of the big bad boys...
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If I recall correctly, wasn't the original ship built to be a contempary to the Enterprise-D. There was the argument that, to the casual fan, other Starfleet ships didn't look different enough from the Enterprise that someone who watched the show only occasionally could spot the difference instantly. If they showed an Ambassador, for instance, the viewers wouldn't know it wasn't the Enterprise.
So with that in mind, George built a model that could, in no way, be mistaken for the Enterprise.
And Johnson said "Turbo-elevators", the only phrase in all of Trek that I find more annoying than "Enterprise-class".
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quote: And on a vastly larger scale, know that there IS a God, and that He knows your name and has stood at your side every moment, and that He has a unique plan for your life.
Well, that's cleared that up then.
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I remember reading a critique of Excelsior from an issue of Cinefantastique when STIII was released. IIRC, the writer compared the secondary hull to a squeezed toothpaste tube.
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