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I just pre-ordered Season 4... so I'll go into the behind the scenes first when August 3rd arrives. Anyway, it really seems that the Princeton was a leftover casting of the Ambassador Class from Yesterday's Enterprise with the 4 foot Galaxy Class nacelles left over. The positions of the phaser strips from the Season 3 pic and the scale makes me see that. Look at how big the Ambassador Class filming model was when Greg put fireworks to it and look at the Princeton. They are in scale and in the same general shape.
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Not really because I remember before that people speculated that the saucer was from the 4 foot Galaxy Class with a modified secondary hull from the Ambassador Class.
In theory, Greg had leftover casted pieces of the Enterprise-C, just like he had with the 4 foot Enterprise-D model. So he took one Ambassador saucer and secondary hull and three Galaxy nacelles to make the Princeton. Then he took one Galaxy nacelle and one Ambassador saucer and made the Firebrand.
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I wish I had the money to buy all the sets. I only have Season 1, then again everything in my room is being butchered by my family on who gets what...
As for the Niagara and Freedom classes, then why does the Ambassador class suacers look different? I know the nacelles are almost the same exact ones as the Galaxy class, but the saucer?
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The Niagara saucer isn't round, though. So it isn't a leftover E-C saucer. The stuff on top of it might be, but not the saucer itself.
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However, the Princeton's bridge module is the same as the Ent-C's, only turned around, & modified slightly.
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Is the consensus the Princeton's primary hull is a cast from the 4-foot Amabassador model? The Ambassador hull is a circle, and I can't convince myself that the pictures of the Princeton model in the workshop show a ship with a circular primary hull. The pictures of the Ambassador model doesn't look like that from any angle.
With the stretched-looking nacelles from the BOBW screen-cap, I think the model used an elliptical Galaxy primary hull and nacelles but that its image was vertically stretched to make the hull look circular.
What we need is a 3-D modeller to try to fit ship parts to those pictures.
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Vice Admiral: Whoops, I thought you were just talking about the engineering hull.
Yeah, the saucer is elliptical, not round. The bridge module is the only part of the saucer that's from the Ambassador. I thought the deal was that the rest was a custom-built piece, just like that of the Freedom...
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I hope that we find out what ship is made out of what when Season 4 is released at September...
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Well, the lower pylon is certainly not from a Los Angeles class sub. At first i thought it could be from the typhoon class but if you look at this schematic and then compare it to the shape of the pylon they are not the same. Particularly noticable is the taper of the sub's sail compared to the constant width of the pylon.
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Maybe they made the Princeton and ?Firebrand? (Is that a legit name?) from galaxy class saucer sections but cut off the 'flat' part - i.e. the underneath part without the 'flat rim'? Or maybe a cut down top half (although making it nice and neat would be harder with out the 'crease' of the 'rim' to guide cutting.
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The new picture serves as kind of a MSD. It's not cut exactly along the keel, but if you squint you can sort of make out that the ventral primary hull is flat on its outer part with a hump in the center.
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quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Maybe they made the Princeton and ?Firebrand? (Is that a legit name?) from galaxy class saucer sections but cut off the 'flat' part - i.e. the underneath part without the 'flat rim'? Or maybe a cut down top half (although making it nice and neat would be harder with out the 'crease' of the 'rim' to guide cutting.
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