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What examples are there? We know from numerous episodes that Starfleet uniforms can really soak up water. What happens if they ever run into a rainy planet? And why in over 35 years of Trek has no one ever beamed up or down to one, hm?
The only example I can think of off the top of my head is the trenchcoat -like thing Admiral Janeway was wearing when he was visiting Chakotay's grave. But that's more like a casual, non-combat sort of thing.
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Well, more than just rain gear, there seems to be a disturbing lack of variety in Starfleet uniforms. The jumpsuits eem to see all the action, despite the terrain or climate. The only example I can think of of climate specific uniforms is the episode where Sisko, Jake, Ezri, and Grandpa go to the desert planet and find the Emmissary Orb.
Is there any other example of different uniforms for different climates?
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In Four hundred years, I would imagine there'd be some fairly all-weather material invented. I mean, we have Gor-Tex out now, right?
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Still, it is kinda odd that away teams either have to go down in full self-contained spacesuits....or exposed normal shipboard uniforms.
I mean, you'd expect a whole suite of gear, simple breather masks for near-earth environments with just small changes in atmosphere, parkas for slightly colder areas, containment suits for planets with unfamiliar virii, etc.
Its not like they lack the energy, design skills, or storage space.
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Yeah! Even Lost in Space and Battlestar Galatica had gear. I clearly remember parkas on both shows and breathing masks on BSG. TOS had those funky, cheap-looking red suits and silver suits, of course.
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They had those field jackets in 'The Cage'. They could provide rain, cold, and heat protection...
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Has everyone forgotten that we've seen two differnt types of field jacket as well as desert gear in just the last year of Enterprise?
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I once tried on a maroon Wrath of Khan field jacket at a convention. it made me look like an oompa loompa. that was before i lost all sorts of weight, though.
the big pockets all over would be a great place to stash some weed (thus satisfying the bizarre stereotype that i must frequently bring up mind altering substances, even though i dont think i do so except for rarely..)
but then again, i am pretty drunk right now
the solar system patch on the shoulder was nifty.. but what the hell did it mean?
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Quark and Odo wore those pretective jackets to keep them warm in an episode of DS9 ("Ascent"?)
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And they appeared to be much the same costumes as the ones worn by the future Kim and Chakotay in "Timeless" - except that Odo and Quark had theirs cut-and-resewn.
As for rain gear, I'd *love* to see the "life support belts" of TAS being used in this role. I imagine it would be relatively easy to use a combination of fake rain on the set foreground/background plus some CGI to create an otherwise invisible or perhaps slightly glowing forcefield "bubble" that surrounds the actors and deflects the rain...
I don't think we have yet seen our heroes in heavy rain, at least not when they were otherwise properly equipped. This sort of futuristic "umbrella" would be a really nice touch, and an �bercool visual effect. Plus it would be a TAS referece, however obscure...
As for why we haven't seen this tech before: one could say that this is the future equivalent of an umbrella and not of a raincoat. Those tough military types don't use umbrellas, except when they are acting un-tough and sensible for a change. I could easily see Archer's crew being a bit more "civilian" and stooping to using the forecefield umbrellas.
Then again, TAS belts might be a bit anachronistic for ENT. What I'd REALLY like to see would be these umbrellas in action in a TOS or TNG movie, with the heavy implication that they are NOT new supertech but rather standard 23rd or 24th century consumer gadgets.
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Starfleet tradition seems to be that if a team lands on a hot or wet (preferably hot and wet), crewmembers (preferably female) strip down to their undergarments (mostly Torres and Janeway).
The "The Cage" jackets were the only thing of the sort we saw on TOS, apart from the flimsy red and silver suits. Movies 1-6 had all sorts of field jackets and protective suits. TNG had no suits whatsoever. The only different uniforms were Beverly's surgeon-suit and some early jumpsuits on engineering extras. VOY did have a lot of different uniforms, but mostly without an obvious reason (a training uniform and two kinds of field uniforms). Finally, DS9 had desert and combat suits. And those FC uniforms look a bit warmer and tougher than the previous uniforms.
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