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Check out this pic here - it's a screen shot from the new Zelda game for the GameCube. Before you say "what the hell has this got to do with Star Trek", the first thing I thought when I saw this image was how the bird's form so distinctly matches that of the Klingon battle cruiser. The resemblance is uncanny IMO.
Anyway, it just got me thinking how every Klingon ship we've ever seen, including the "new" Raptor from Enterprise, is based on the appearance of a real life bird of prey.
Also, the Romulans have ships that have heavy bird influence and, like the Klingons, their ships are most common green. It's almost as if the Klingons and Romulans get together when they are designing new ships.
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I think it's just a coincidence that they look similar.
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quote:Originally posted by Magenta Aban Rune: The graphics seem rather suckish. But yes, the bird does look like a klingon ship all painted up and stuff
the game engine is cell shaded, but it doesn;t have the normal thick black lines around everything. this makes it look....different. i hear it looks a lot better in motion than it does in screen shots.
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quote:Originally posted by Cherry Dukhat: I think it's just a coincidence that they look similar.
Well yes, I don't think Nintendo were intentionally trying to make the bird look like a Klingon ship, if that's what you mean. But that's my point. I just never thought of the D7 cruiser as being bird-like until I saw that pic.
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Historically, the Romulans were the ones with Birds of Prey during the Earth war. Then in STIII the Klingons fly a Bird of Prey, because the first drafts of the script wanted it to be a stolen Romulan ship. Thankfully, we can combine this with the Romulans flying Klingon battlecruisers in TOS and say that they were allies for a time, or at least shared technology. But the STIII BoP caused Greg Jein to redesign the D-7 with a faint wing pattern, and caused all 'modern' Klingon designs to be Romulan-green.
Enterprise has this MAJOR screw-up in the pilot when one of the Vulcans mentions "Klingon Warbirds'. Klingon's have NEVER used birdnames (or at least were never supposed to). I think it's best to just ignore this blooper.
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Or then consider it the *Vulcan* name for the vessels. If Romulans like bird names, then perhaps Vulcans do as well...
Anyhow, it wouldn't be that strange if everybody out there was in the habit of naming starships after birds. Birds fly, starships fly, that sort of thing.
It's actually pretty strange that humans would think of spacecraft as "ships" at all. Sure, there's some analogy between a ship and a starship, but not so much more than between a car and a starship, and much less than between an aeroplane and a starship. Or a submarine and a starship, really.
quote:Originally posted by Harry: Enterprise has this MAJOR screw-up in the pilot when one of the Vulcans mentions "Klingon Warbirds'. Klingon's have NEVER used birdnames (or at least were never supposed to). I think it's best to just ignore this blooper.
This is a "MAJOR" screw-up? Jeez, if that's the worst that they are doing, I think I can sleep soundly at night.
And yes, they've never used bird names. Ever. There's no such ship as a Klingon Bird of Prey. Not at all.
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You forgot the other big blooper -- in "Sleeping Dogs," that Klingon woman threatened to call in some Birds-of-Prey. If you guys have never read Five-Minute Enterprise, you might enjoy this little clip from the episode:
quote:Archer: So, think you could help us? Bu'kaH: HA! Let me go before I send for a Bird of Pr-- Everyone: GASP! Bu'kaH: Oh no! Did I just say... Noooo! I'm sorry! Don't kill me! Archer: I'm afraid it's a little late for that. Guards, get rid of this scum.
Nice to know that some people can take these kinds of mistakes seriously, right?
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I do remember Braga admitting to that one in an interview.
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Spaceships being ships in space is sort of intrinsic to the whole idea. It goes back to the dawn of the space age, and well before, with all sorts of ideas for grand liners plying the spaceways and so on.
Besides, NASA has so far taken the Air Force route, and look where it has gotten us. Not one alien, wormhole, or stagnant parallel earth to be seen.
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