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Excellent work! What program ar eyou using to create this?
I have a minor nit though: If they need to eject the warp core, they either have to jettison the lower thingamobob or the core would have to go through it.
quote:Originally posted by Aban Rune: Excellent work! What program ar eyou using to create this?
I have a minor nit though: If they need to eject the warp core, they either have to jettison the lower thingamobob or the core would have to go through it.
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Yes you have right! It was an big problem with this Warpcore! I will place a "pipe" in the center of the lower container, so the core can "flush" through the "pipe" into space.
Lobo
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quote:Originally posted by Dr. Phlox: ^ But that would make at least six torpedo tubes, isn't that a few too many for a ship this size? Even if frigates are quite well armed.
Fully armed yes, but since these pods are probably inter-changeable it's reasonable to assume that under normal circumstances a New Orleans-Class ship will only carry one or two torpedo pods, while the other one or two pods contain sensors, cargo and the like. The Kyushu could be an exception, in that the usual sensor/cargo pods were removed in favour of an all torpedo complement, in anticipation of the engagement with the Borg. Other such improvisations could have been made on several of the other 39 ships at W359, indeed the Saratoga seams to have been outfitted with an unusually large set of weapons.
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That would assume however that said pods could be swapped out really quickly, and a supply was available... In practice, the only place they really could have gone for such an outfitting would probably be Utopia Planitia. I guess it's possible, but I'm of the opinion that all ships went as is. Pods can look the same on the outside, no?
UF link - one of the pics Mojo was working on included UP emptying out of anything that could fly... Including the half-built replacement for the USS Yamato.
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I don't mind the idea that the NO is overloaded w/ torpedo launchers, actually. After all, it's called a "frigate", and we know how Starfleet hates to refer to their ships as warships. So, if they gave the NO a designation which immediately implies that it's a warship, I think it's safe to say the ship is very well-armed.
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Or you could just have it so that the lower pod can be dumped to free up the warpcore ejection hatch.
quote: UF link - one of the pics Mojo was working on included UP emptying out of anything that could fly... Including the half-built replacement for the USS Yamato.
Some ship's names have all the bad luck. I do remember Mojo mentioning that he wanted a Galaxy at Wolf 359, I'm glad that he chose to use a half built one instead of one of the original six.
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I'd think the 'switchable pod' system would neatly answer the question of "where is the hangar?"
It is actually a quite elegant system - sub-designing each ship per mission. Place thrusters in the pods, and swapping them becomes no more difficult a task than redocking the Ent-D Saucer.
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Regarding Wolf 359 -- if the Kyushu and Saratoga were unusual in that they carried extra weapons pods... then why didn't they offload civilians, like Jennifer and Jake Sisko?
Guess that nixes that...
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Rev: yup, that's the one. We were trying to work out why there'd be an incomplete GCS at Wolf 359 without screwing up any NCC numbers we had or were going to run into from the first six. We rationalized that if a GCS were under construction at UP, it would be of the first batch - but we'd accounted for all of them (more or less) in the show, and fandom had more or less accepted that Starfleet wouldn't have let out contracts to build any more until after the battle of Wolf 359. So why would there be one under construction? We figured that if there were to be one, it would be one of the six replacements whose superstructures were broken up and hidden. And what better reason to build another one but to replace a lost ship - the Yamato - in much the same way as the space shuttle Endeavour was built to replace Challenger.
So whatever the GCS was in the planned pic, it may not have been the next USS Yamato; rather, it was an (as yet) unnamed ship under construction to replace her.
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Well, for the Saratoga, anyway, but its attachments never looked much like weapons to me.
"The Best of Both Worlds" (part 1) stretched from stardate 43989.1 (Enterprise picks up Shelby and heads for the New Providence colony) to 43998.5, which we might say counts for three and a half days or so, which seems like plenty of time to swap out science/cargo/etc. components and put in weaponry, assuming that the Kyushu (and any other New Orleans at the battle) were in the same system as an appropriately outfitted dock facility at the time. Of course, there is less time between Admiral Hanson announcing the formation of a fleet at Wolf 359 and the battle itself. So, you know. I don't know what I'm saying.
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Watch the nacelle struts and the lower pod on the new photos (of the already famous series of caps by Starship Millennium). I just incorporated that into my own schematics (although I admit they are quite coarse and could need more details).
BTW, I would expect the shuttlebay just where it is on the Galaxy, only half as tall. The engineering hull is just too much tapered that something could be in the blown away rear end. Shuttlebays in the pods may be an additional option, but I would expect one already in the basic configuration.
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So, you seem to have settled on using the pods as shuttlebays, or the top ones in any case. What are you nailing the ventral pod for?
And regarding the warp core - looks like it can be ejected upwards, thus removing the need to push if through the ventral hole. However, there is no ejection port to match it.
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I can't seem to view any of Lobo's pictures.
Just something about Bernd's schematics at his site... the bottom 'pod' that we see now is attached with a mini-pylon-thingy has a protruding round nodule on its anterior surface.
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