quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Maybe the whole Lakota being super-duper was part of Admiral what's his face's attempt at taking over Earth/Starfleet.
This was likely the first step in upgrading all the Excelsior class ships for the looming war with the dominion and the Admiral was using the Lakota as his personal scalpel when trying to seize power. That would also explain the Hood's firepower and give a good reason for an 80 year old design still serving as a large part of the fleet. The Miranda had likely undergone a simmular upgrade and had the phasers in the saucer installed as well as those in the rollbar upgraded.
...the ablative armor comment was directed towards the Defiant by Benteen. The lakota had no armor.
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quote:he Miranda had likely undergone a simmular upgrade and had the phasers in the saucer installed
the Miranda class has always had phasers on the saucer section. they simply weren't used in tWoK.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QUOTE]Originally posted by AndrewR: [qb]...the ablative armor comment was directed towards the Defiant by Benteen. The lakota had no armor.
No ablative armor, she might have a few extra feet of duranium/tritanium alloy plating here and there. People seems to think that no Starfleet armor existed, or was effective, before the ablative armor rolled around.
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If the ship was refitted, this took place some time before the episodes. Sisko and Odo took the ship to travel from DS9 to earth, meaning she had been in space for some time at that point.
At least the fatal "only ship in the area"-illness is not Enterprise-specific. When Leyton said Lakota was the only ship in orbit, no one even thought about all those ships at Utopia. They just relied on Lakota's transporter to gain control over earth. On the other hand, maybe all those officers Leyton transferred here and there were part of the plan to disable Utopia's help somehow, too (maybe he put someone in command of UP and that guy managed to disable the facilities, something like that).
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IIRC it was implied that after the Lakota got back to Earth, the refit started.
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Which doesn't leave much time for potential upgrades. How long was Sisko on earth? Between a week and a month, I'd say. So either the upgrades were not that important or large at all or they had already started to work on the ship before she left earth to DS9. (If this is the case I wonder why they sent the ship to DS9 at all.)
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It also depends on the type of upgrade. The yard could have completed components and just did a total whatever swap out when the Lakota arrived. All she had to do was is to make sure everything fit, system check, and so forth. The fittings of a Type VIII Mod8 phaser emitter can't be that different from a Mod11, right?
Maybe the upgrade was more of a test for the yard, to see how fast they can rewire an old Excelsior into a new Excelsior. You know, in case war breaks out, and upgunned ships are needed.
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I've checked the dialogue. Commander Benteen mentions in "Paradise Lost" that the Lakota was undergoing her refit, and would be finished on the 14th - when she would take command. Incidentally, the Lakota was dispatched to stop the Defiant BEFORE this date. As such, it's possible that she could have been incomplete...
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even if a refit was only partially complete, some of the new junk would probably have been operational. when they launched the 1701 early in TMP everything new worked except the transporter and the warp drive.
BTW, most of the ships at UP are under construction.. theres a good reason that they cant do anything.. they dont have like, engines or complete hulls and stuff, yo.
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Utopia Planitia also refits ships, so there would have been functional vessels available. Or at least shuttles or runabouts.
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Actually, there isn't clear proof that the Lakota would have been the only starship in the vicinity.
All that is stated is that Leyton ordered the Lakota specifically to assist during the power failure. Perhaps this was simply a command decision, and not an indication that other ships wouldn't have been available.
And the engagement between the Lakota and the Defiant could have taken place far away from Earth, so that Leyton wouldn't have to factor the other ships in Sol system in his plans in any way. Half a dozen "legit" starships could have been orbiting Earth at the time, waiting for orders from Leyton and only idly wondering why the Lakota just left orbit.
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People seems to think that no Starfleet armor existed, or was effective, before the ablative armor rolled around.
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