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Steamrunners were out in force in the fleet at the end of "Call to Arms".
Don't forget the fleet during FC had been battling the Borg vessel for a while before the Enterprise (and we) got there. Maybe the Steamrunners had been there longer or in there first and used up all of their torpedoes (thus not seeing any being fired) and they were in there for so long that they were close to destruction.
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quote:Originally posted by Woodside Kid: If the warp core is in the main body of the ship, then it would be no more "explosive" than the setup on the Miranda. Since there seems to be very little in the way of a connection between the pod and the main hull (unless you want to run a turbolift shaft through one of the nacelles), having main engineering in the pod would be very inconvenient for the crews.
Well, if the warp core is in the main body, then double the power is needed to go through the nacelles to power the deflector on the pod.
A shrapnel hit to the nacelles would take out both warp and deflector, and then cuasing some feedback into the warp core which ultimately destroys the ship, just like in FC.
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Although. . . I'm not too sure about the deflector requiring the same amount of energy as a set of warp nacelles? Or am I just taking the 'double the power' comment too literally?
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Steamrunners were out in force in the fleet at the end of "Call to Arms".
Don't forget the fleet during FC had been battling the Borg vessel for a while before the Enterprise (and we) got there. Maybe the Steamrunners had been there longer or in there first and used up all of their torpedoes (thus not seeing any being fired) and they were in there for so long that they were close to destruction.
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I've often thought about that as well. At maximum warp it still took the Enterprise over three hours to arrive at the battle. ALOT of fed ships were doubtlessly destroyed while fighting a retreating battle from the Typhon sector to Earth. Either the Steamrunners were called in as renforcements or were in route from more distant locations and got to the fight late. ...or the Steamrunner is very tough and the ships we see getting nailed had been taking a pounding (like Defiant) for a while prior to Enterprise's arrival. I'd imagine that the Borg dispatched the ships they were familliar with first: explaining why there was only one Nebula left and no Galaxy's or Excelsiors.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I'd imagine that the Borg dispatched the ships they were familliar with first: explaining why there was only one Nebula left and no Galaxy's or Excelsiors.
Come to think of it, it seems like a minor miracle that there wasn't any Excelsiors seen in the battle. Considering how common they were in the Dominion War battles anyway.
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Mabye Starfleet knew that sending Excelsiors and Mirandas would be so much pissing in the wind....of course these are the brainiacs that sent an Oberth into battle at 359. (I'm sure that the Miranda briefly shown is supposed to be the Boseman: mentioned in the comm chatter).
Of course the real reason we did not see any Galaxys was to avoid confusion among the casual viewer as to what ship the Enterprise was. It also explains why none of the First Contact ships is much larger than an Excelsior.
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The only Bozeman we know of isn't a Miranda, and if there's a Bozeman out there we don't know about there's no reason for it to be a Miranda.
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quote:Of course the real reason we did not see any Galaxys was to avoid confusion among the casual viewer as to what ship the Enterprise was.
Of course, by the time the Borg battle scenes come, we had already seen the E-E. ("We" also includes the casual viewer as when we first see her, she was alone and had Picard's log entry over it along with the Observation Lounge scene right after it... so that the casual viewer should have deduced it was the E-E. But, then of course, the producers and TPTB think we're dumb.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: The only Bozeman we know of isn't a Miranda, and if there's a Bozeman out there we don't know about there's no reason for it to be a Miranda.
It's entirely feasible that the Bozeman was refit to Miranda standard. It's pretty clear the Miranda-class well outlived the Soyuz-class so there must be some benefit to the Miranda configuration.
Along with the FC appearance, I also think that the Miranda seen at the end of Generations was the Bozeman.
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I'd never considered that the Miranda in Generations could be the Bozeman.....it makes sense. Starfleet would likely keep that crew togeather to speed up the learning curve for the new technology. I agree that the Bozeman would be refitted into a Miranda configuration. The crew of the Bozeman is probably somewhat famous among starfleet as living icons of the past, but I just can't picture Kelsey Grammer in a DS9 era uniform. I'd imagine that any ship captains assigned to older ships like a Miranda or Excelsior were looking at re-assignment to brand new ships as starfleet rebuilds in a panic after the Dominion war. There must be a large shortage in experienced captains for the new vessels. Mabye "Fraiser" got an uprated Akira to command or at least a Sabre....
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