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Go here and follow the appropriate links. There's over five minutes of Nemesis footage, including a rather large chunk of the big space battle between the E-E and the Scimitar.
Keeping this in context, there's a quick shot during the battle sequence when Picard orders a phaser sweep to locate the cloaked ship (way cool!). At one point, we see her firing aft - but not necessarily using phasers. For those willing to check the footage out, would anyone care to comment on these particular weapons? Regardless, it seems the E-E is getting a workout like we've never seen before!
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They look like Defiant-esque phasers, but they're coming from the place we saw a torpedo supposedly launch from in Insurrection. Perhaps the new FX house just doesn't know how to make torpedoes? Not that I'm criticising the quality of the effects, mind you. Neato! and all. But I have perhaps stolen this idea from Mr. Magnus anyway.
Hints of Wrath of Khan effects in the phaser sweep, anyway, with its kind of stuttery quality.
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I think those aft firing weapons are some kind of post-quantum torpedos. Man, I cannot wait to see this fucking movie! Three more weeks....
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Poor Jean Luc, whenever he leaves the Enterprise, she gets attacked.
I liked the streaking phasers and the idea of using them to locate the Scimitar(did they do that in Balance of Terror?), but the torpedoes, if that's what they were didn't seem very convincing. Was it just me or were the ships moving very quickly? The Scimitar in particular looked too maneuverable to me. Very cool anyway.
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I think those are just normal torpedoes, and the sound effects aren't complete. They just appear to fire more rapidly then we've seen them. Maybe an upgrade?
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Those torpedos are comming from a spot right above the shuttle hangar. Eithere there is one attached to the rear of the bridge dome (level two, below the observation lounge) or a pop-up launcher like the one they planned to use in FC (pictured in the sketchbook) that is able to rotate at a certain degree. Anyway, I think those are just standard photons. God knows why they don't use quantums. Maybe quantums can only be fired from the primary launcher above the yacht. Was the torpedo fired at the Son'a in Insurrection an orange or blue torpedo?
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Oh, and did anyone notice the new shields? Bubbles are gone, we've got skin-tight body shielding. I prefer the bubble, but this looks cooler, of course.
I'm excited what we'll get to see besides all those cool new props and stuff (you know, Endgame handphasers, tricorders... I hope they don't use the batmobile armor)
And do you think Shinzons holo-communication method is the same the think tank used (maybe the romulans got the tech from them) or do you think starships are now equipped with hologenerators everywhere?
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quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: the new shields? Bubbles are gone, we've got skin-tight body shielding.
Hmmm...possibly a new development similar to the effect seen when Borg adapt to hand phasers?? Perhaps some new innovation developed by Starfleet from Borg technology brought back by Voyager??
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I just watched it once, but here's what I caught.
Picard orders all banks to fire at zero elevation. In other words level with the horizontal plane of the ship. No torps at this point. Short phaser bursts fire in every direction until a few of them impact the ship and give them something to lock on to. At that point, the angle changes and we get an aft view of the Enterprise firing torps.
My guess would be that A) there are pieces of this sequence that aren't shown, and B) the visual and audio effects arent' quite done yet.
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Just about EVERYTHING in that clip was a placeholder. You'll notice that some shots are very short or clearly cropped (Picard went straight from Astrometrics to Bridge without any inbetween shots, there was no opening fire that caused the E-E core to sparkle, etc.). Stuart Baird is renowned in the industry for editting, and I'm sure we'll get some good stuff out of this.
Back to the effects - I think Aban's got it in one. The torpedoes were just too slow to lock on to the target the phasers had picked out. Having wached it again, even with the angle the shot was shown at those weapons could not be phaser blasts compared to the other ones. Unintentional as these launchers appear to be (not on the plans; arguable evidence from "Insurrection") it looks like we'll have to include them as part of the E-E's arsenal. I'm leaning towards thinking they could be microtorpedo launchers as posited on DS9 (though I hate the idea), or popups like were supposed to be in FC. I doubt that they are pulse phasers...
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I doubt they'd use phasers at full power to find the Scimitar.....they'd hose the bad guys after they got a lock. That's probably why they fired torpedos as a follow-up: there would have been no power adjustments to make. Just lock and fire....for all the good it does.
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Well, also, they didn't know what to fire at. Just like in Star Trek 6, as soon as they located the cloaked ship, they opened up on it. Same here. The phaser spread was to try and find the ship. My guess is that there will be a line between finding the ship with the phasers and the launch of the torps of Picard yelling, "Lock torpedos on that distortion and fire!" or something. The first spread appears to hit the ship, while the second goes sailing by. The ship obviously changed course.
I'm also getting something else from the conversation with Shinzon that I didn't before. Shinzon was in the "Mines of Remus". Presumably the planet he's trying to destory is Romulus. The Ent. E is supposedly there in the first place on a diplomatic mission that goes wrong (according to the Art Asylum figures).
I had always figured the Romulans and Shinzon's boys were on the same side.
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Shinzon is the new Romulan Preator (Picard calls him that in the preview, so I'm not blowing any secrets here).
I think that after the Rommies became all warm and fuzzy with the Federation after the Dominion war alliance, Shinzon (and the plan to swap him with Picard) was tossed aside and he was banished to Remus along with Dracula and all the "mexican klingons" from TOS. Bake at 375 for 90 minutes and you get the Reman Viceroy (Ron Pearlman)with nifty telepathic powers and an aversion to light.
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