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A few weeks ago I found myself incredibly bored, so, being the Star Trek fanboy that I am, I decided to naturally bug Mike Okuda about BoBW again. My email question had to do with this quote, from the interview he gave to Timo back in February 2000:
"Rick S. built the Mars perimeter ship from the same type of model kit. I think the body was made from a Typhoon-class Russian sub kit, although it was not specifically tied to the movie Red October. If I recall, he and I bought a whole bunch of kits, including the Russian subs, in hopes of doing some kitbash ships ourselves. I used a couple of other subs on the Buran."
My question was, did he or Rick build any other new ship kitbash designs from the extra parts, which didn't make it to the screen. He gave me an interesting answer.
He told me that there weren't any models finished but not used, but there was at least one design he had started but didn't finish. This particular ship was built from Ent-D parts, and the design was similar to the Chekov in that he wanted the secondary hull to be meshed to the back of the saucer in the same plane. However, the big difference was that he wanted the ship to be much, much smaller than the Miarecki bashes, so he had a 1/2 inch thick fiberglass "lollipop" shaped piece cut, to be placed between the entire ship's centerline (sort of like what Greg Jein did with the Connie saucer to make it into the Stargazer model). Supposedly, with this thickness, bigger windows could have been drawn on the hull to make the appearance of a smaller ship.
I suppose the closest description I can use for the ship would be a "Constellationized Galaxy."
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There are no pictures. Just the description. However, with all the graphic talent we have here, I'm sure someone could draw up a nice side-view diagram of the ship based on what I said...
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Oooh... this sounds like a very nice concept for a ship... One thing I'd like (if anyone drew it) was to have slightly different-style nacelles (like how the New Orleans nacelles were lengthened) to make it just a bit more unique -- especially if it's supposed to be a lot smaller than the other starships.
But of course, that's all up to us anyway since it never made it onto the screen?
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Nice ship, Lobo, but I think you're thinking of the Buran...it would look more like the Chekov. The nacelles are in the normal place, not up & down.
Plus, you need to put in a 1/2 inch thick space through the middle of the entire ship's centerline (think Constellation saucer).
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But Lobo did! Look, it's a 1/2 inch insert in 1:1 scale! If you squint really hard, you can see it!
Anyway, in doing the insert, it has to be scaled appropriately. I'm guessing that the model would be built out of 1/2500 scale kits like the other "minor" ships; thus the 1/2 inch spacer would have to be scaled appropriately. One wonders how many decks this would correspond to...
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I guess it would depend on how large you make the windows. I would guess that the spacer should have no more than three decks, preferably two if you want the ship really small while still being realistic. And don't forget the bigger bridge module!
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A cool ship, but still bigger than what Okuda intended, I think. This one is about the size of the Miarecki ones... Okuda would have wanted something the size of a Miranda or smaller.
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