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Pointing one's pistol in the air and firing would certainly give away their position. Which, as I gather, is exactly not what they wanted to do.
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Starting a new thead entitled "Section 31 and You" err..."Section 31 on Enterprise" probably wouldnt be too popular in this here forum but it is an interesting idea nonetheless...
AND IN NO WAY AM I IMPLYING SUCH A TOPIC or EPISODE THEME SHOULD EXIST!...
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quote:Actually, I'm pretty sure Sloan said it was included in the original Starfleet charter.
So, it was included in the Starfleet charter and founded to protect the Federation. Another point for the "Earth Starfleet =! Federation Starfleet" theory.
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quote:Originally posted by TheWoozle: They COULD have been in stationary orbit, but that's a little farther out then standard (low) orbit.
Which raises the question of just what "standard orbit" is.
Over Earth, a low orbit can be as little as 120 miles above the surface, which a geosynchronous one is something on the order of 23,000 miles. That's a pretty significant jump, as the former is about 1/66th the planet's diameter while the latter is about 3x said diameter.
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There was an old Best of Trek article with an interesting idea about "standard orbit." It supposed that a standard orbit is a powered synchronous orbit at low altitudes. On the shows, the ships are never seen orbiting at synchronous height*, yet they are always within line-of-sight for transporters, communications, the rare orbital bombardment, etc. This is impossible that close to a planet, due to the way that simple orbiting works. In TOS, orbits often "decayed" rapidly when the ship lost power. Why would this happen? Obviously, power was required to keep the ship in its orbit... a "standard orbit" would then be a hovering operation over a certain spot, maybe the capital of an inhabited planet.
* Granted, the shows also show the ship visibly moving over the planet's rotation, but this is clearly a visual effects contrivance.
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I forgot about the atmosphere disrupting the laser... but still the ship following the shuttle with an external camera is well within the capabilities of our time.
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...or mabye the Enterprise was only brought in close enough to get the shuttle there and then resume a standoff-ish posture with the Vulcan ships: remember that Trip does'nt trust them to keep their word and not send in troops. ...or mabye he's just liking that center seat a little too much.
BTW: Reed founds Section 31 at the Federation's founding.
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Awesome and at that, very high quality!! Hopefully we will get an eyeful of new ships like this that will be reused on a regular basis.
Any guesses on what those "pods" are on the "wings"? Do you think they are auxilary craft on the nacelles, or is it a single nacelled (in the aft/tail section) or are they the red-lit portion of the "wings" and the blue tail the impulse glow??
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The front end is shares by most TNG shuttles and the runabout. There could be something there - Andorians are known as ship builders in the extended fandom.
I'm thinking that the wing pods AND the tail glowing thing are both nacelles - the tail things are grille-styled more than exhaust ports. I hope we'll be seeing these ships again, and soon!
quote: I presume Archer knows Morse code or some equivalent...
Sure! Remember Hoshi's dream from "Vanishing Point"? In the Captain's office, Ready Room, whatever they call it, Hoshi tried to get Archer's attention using Morse Code. Which means it's still in use a couple hundred years from now.
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