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Who says they weren't trying to? In the end, it's going to boil down to "what feels right". And since this will be a matter of opinion, there's no way a single answer will ever be attained.
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The NX number could be assigned to the concept of the Prometheus.
The year is 2348.. Starfleet Think Tank: "Hey Council! We'd like to start a Top Secret design study on a "multi-vector" assault vessel. Perhaps we can use it againt the Cardassians, Tzenkethi and Tholians!" Council: "Ehm... sure. Here, have a couple of NX numbers! Have fun!"
Then it turns out the whole multi-vector concept isn't particularly practical. But several years later, after the Borg attacks and the Dominion threat, someone remembers the old Prometheus project. They basically start redesigning the thing from scrap but noone bothers to acquire a new NX number.
quote:Originally posted by Harry: Perhaps the original NX-59etc. was something rather different. Or it could've depended on some technologies from the Intrepid or Sovereign projects.
How's about this for a theory:
The Prometheus is a multi-vector assault ship - right? It seperates into 3 individual ships - right?
So, the Prometheus was in the design stage and they needed a 3rd part to complete it. Along comes an older test ship that was partially successful and had the old reg number on it. Being lazy and in a rush due to the war, they never bothered to change the number.
Or you could just stick with the facts - this is just one of those annoying f***ups from the effects people that we'll never agree on.
Anyway, I thought the reg issue was solved in a previous thread, why bring it up again?
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Or here is yet a stupider idea: Perhaps since it is 3 warp capible vessels integrated into one vessel...the main vessel has the NCC-7x registry and the vessel separated into 3 distinct vessels each have their own unique registries....
hmm...i wonder if they have interchangeable parts....say for example the Enterprise-D and the Yamato could swap saucers or something....
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The point I made (somewhere else) about the Galaxys is that the USS Galaxy is 70637, the Challenger is 71099, the Yamato is 71807, etc. If numbers were assigned to ships when they were "concepts", then the Galaxy prototype would have a far lower number than its production sisters. Unless you want to claim a design time of 6 months for the Galaxy. As it stands, it appears that numbers are assigned when ships are produced, and so the Prometheus would have had to have been launched in the 40s or 50s. Which is absurd.
I think that there is no more reason for each of the 3 parts to have separate numbers as there is for the 2 parts of the Enterprise D to have 2 different numbers.
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Everyone seems to forget about the poor old 71201 Prometheus... While the 59650/74913 Prometheus may have been started in the 40-50s, it couldn't possibly have been called Prometheus...
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My theory is that the 59650 number was actually Starfleet Intelligence trying to confuse everyone else out there about the identity of the secret warship that was being developed.
Based on the comments in this thread, I'd say that disinformation campaign has succeeded.
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quote:Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: My theory is that the 59650 number was actually Starfleet Intelligence trying to confuse everyone else out there about the identity of the secret warship that was being developed.
Finally, someone agrees with me!
And I'd forgotten about the USS "Commanded by a Lt JG" Prometheus, but it merely confirms my belief that 59650 was wrong (hopefully deliberately, otherwise the Starfleet Paint Division need to have their eyes tested).
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quote:Originally posted by Phoenix: I think that there is no more reason for each of the 3 parts to have separate numbers as there is for the 2 parts of the Enterprise-D to have 2 different numbers.
Hey junior, I think you missed the point with what I said: "Perhaps since it is 3 warp capible vessels integrated into one vessel...the main vessel has the NCC-7x registry and when the vessel is separated into 3 distinct vesselseach would have their ownunique registries...."
The saucer of a Galaxyis not warp capible and therefore really cannot be defined as a true 'starship' on its own, and therefore contains the registry of its mothership (the stardrive section).
HOWEVER, seeing as the Prometheus can separate into 3 individual warp capable vessels, allowing 1 'starship' to become 3 'starships', one could theorize that presumably each section is self-sustaining (as each are warp capable), suggesting the possibility that each warp capible section has its own unique registry number, just as any other warp capible starship generally has its own. Were they simple impluse driven door wedges then I would say otherwise.
In anycase, so little is known about the Prometheus, one hates to theorize about this, however it does at least make a little sense, if not some creative logic, much more than the idle chatter to which i am defending against.
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In the article, Sternbech based the ship on Voyager and added Enterprise-E components to it. That's why it looks so new and shiny.
In the Star Trek universe... the Prometheus could have been a testbed ship for technologies that were later incorporated into the Sovereign and Intrepid Classes. I know it's non-canon but in my ST Bridge Commander game, the regenerative shielding system was first used on the Prometheus along with the ablative hull armor.
Now, can anyone please scan the Sternbech sketches so we can see them.
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That does make sense. Although I would have thought it more likely that they would be given registries like 74913-1 or 74913-B rather than completely different ones. But I suppose its possible...
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quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: HOWEVER, seeing as the Prometheus can separate into 3 individual warp capable vessels, allowing 1 'starship' to become 3 'starships'..
OR...3 ships to become one.
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