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The Probert painting seems to show that Ambassador has a pretty wide secondary hull. I think Jeff Robb's extrapolation reflects that, perhaps even being a bit narrow. Just going from the side view, I would probably draw the secondary hull fairly slim in the Excelsior style, but the painting makes it look fat.
But, yeah, MrNeutron, try to some more info from Mr. Probert!
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The secondary hull is wide at the front (like the Galaxy) but slim from the side overall (like the Excelsior). I dig that dark grey "collar" around the nav deflector.....kinda like the dark area under the Refit Excelsior's deflector.
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What is the length of the Reliant listed on the chart? I can't work it out.
Interesting that the correct length for the (proto) Ambassador is 525m and not the commonly published 526m. It's similar to how the Galaxy is commonly thought to be 641m but is meant to be 642.5m.
quote:Originally posted by Dax: What is the length of the Reliant listed on the chart? I can't work it out.
Looks like 765', but I'm not 100% certain.
quote:Interesting that the correct length for the (proto) Ambassador is 525m and not the commonly published 526m. It's similar to how the Galaxy is commonly thought to be 641m but is meant to be 642.5m.
I'm not sure why you make mention of this, as it's not really a big deal. One meter and one-and-a-half meters is nothing, IMO. Only way it would really make much of a difference is if you were trying to make detail prints/plans. Plus, I was thinking that the stated length of the E-D was 642m...?
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Surely the Reliant length reads 765' not 965'
765' would make it 233m which is correct (+/- a meter or so).
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Yep, you're right. I edited the above just before you hit send on yours, apparently. I'm not home and using a crappy monitor, so things are pretty hard to make out. I miss my flat screen with crystal clear quality. :-(
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Though I love several elements of the Not-Ambassador, I've gotta say that I'm glad that wierd pylon connection scheme (to the secondary hull) didn't make the cut when the ship was finally built. It's great insofar as being an evolutionary step, but it just looks funny.
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Yeah, the Not-Ambassador or the "I Can't Believe It's Not the Ambassador" makes me feel squeemish... there is something strange about it.
It is also a TOO smooth transition between the Exxy and the Gal - I mean there are more differences between the Connie and the Exxy.
I still like the Ambassador class we saw. Maybe the N-A could be a step between the Exxy and the Ambass? Or the Ambass and the Gal?
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I do sorta agree though, about it being too smooth a transition. After all, the Constition doesn't look anything like the Excelsior (comparitively).
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I'm not too keen on the pylons myself as I see them in the sketch and painting, but I'm also suspecting that part of the design didn't get too refined in at the stage of Encounter at Farpoint.
You have to consider that this Ambassador design was whacked together in a big hurry, specifically to make the wall model and as the basis of a quick matte for a single long shot of the ship. I'm betting if they had decided to actually show the design in the 1st season it would a got refined a lot. I got to go through Andy's sketchbooks and saw how much the Galaxy class "tweaked" between the initial concept approval and the on-screen result. My guess is the Ambassador would've gotten similar treatment.
OTOH if it ever showed with a hull wide enough for the pylons to go straight up into the nacelles as it sort appears in the painting, I'd have had to hit Andy over the head with the model. hahaha
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