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Timo
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I must shamefully admit that I once bothered to find out which setting Riker used in "Vengeance Factor". And that I have since forgotten. But it wasn't all that high - I think he started at three green LEDs or something, upped to five, and then to eight (which is quite correct for the lowest vaporizing setting, according to the TNG TM).

There was some vaporizing being done with the Type 1 phasers in early TNG, too. Like when Riker was given Q powers: he vaped the "animal thing" that bayonetted Wesley (Or did Worf do that? My memory is definitely going...). That must have been at setting eight, too, since the type 1's supposedly don't go higher than that.

And of course, multiple times we saw a type 2 jacked up to level 16, but not fired. Riker in the fantasy in... Gawd, my memory IS going. The one with the insane asylum, and Beverly's play. lily in "First Contact". Worf actually used the setting in "Chain of Command", and it did vaporize lots of rock. Not heat and melt and boil it, since the heroes touched the rock walls immediately afterwards, but cleanly make it disappear in a puff of VFX.

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@Timo: The episode with Riker in the insane asylum (well, kidnapped actually) is called "Frame of Mind".

And @Treknophyle: It's Kivas Fajo! Ah, never mind...

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"I hate you for making me recall that episode."

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"And of course, multiple times we saw a type 2 jacked up to level 16, but not fired."

I believe O'Brien set his phaser at level 16 when he was going to kill himself in that DS9 ep (yeah, I can't be bothered to look up titles, either).

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I've never seen "The Vengeance Factor," I now realise. I thought the only TNG ep I'd yet to see was "The High Ground," the one they only show here if they remove the Northern Ireland references - and in fact I did finally get to see that one recently. Gosh, to think that problems in Ireland once seemed so important. . .

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Oh, and that DS9 ep is "Hard Time." 8)

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The LED rows on the phaser props are sometimes a bit misleading. When you light up the whole row of eight greens, it may look as if the row of eight reds is lit as well. At least on the old TNG type 2 props... Did O'Brien really intend to take the station with him to the Other Side? Or did he key in "level 8", which is enough for a nice clean getaway without a charred corpse to scare Keiko and kids?

Both the "Frame of Mind" and ST:FC cases of level 16 overkill were said to hold the potential for Massive Destruction. IIRC, Bashir didn't comment on this when disarming O'Brien in "Hard Time". Not that this means anything one way or the other, really.

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quote:
Originally posted by Timo:

There was some vaporizing being done with the Type 1 phasers in early TNG, too. Like when Riker was given Q powers: he vaped the "animal thing" that bayonetted Wesley (Or did Worf do that? My memory is definitely going...). That must have been at setting eight, too, since the type 1's supposedly don't go higher than that.

Makes sense . . . TOS Type 1's were vaping things left and right. McCoy vs. the Mugato comes to mind, along with the Klingon of "Friday's Child" who vaped a couple of guys with Kirk's, and also shot at Kirk with dynamite-esque results.

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There are definitely 8 segments visible in this image:

http://www.phasers.net/2370/p2-ht04.jpg

And he does have it on full power:

http://www.phasers.net/2370/p2-ht06.jpg

Yet he appears to set it that way using the beam-width setting on the right, not the beam-intensity setting on the left. . . Or is that just how it looks in this cap? Been a while since I saw the ep.

http://www.phasers.net/2370/p2-ht05.jpg

On a side note, the version seen in ST:FC has a red firingh button, and even appears to have the red and yellow bars reversed. . .

http://www.phasers.net/2370/p2-fc09.jpg

. . . Which is how it also is on the Master Replicas boomerang phaser - the first 8 settings are on the top, the second 8 are on the bottom. There obviously wasnt't much point in having a beam-width setting on the replica if there ain't no beam!

http://www2.masterreplicas.com/StarTrek/STProduct.aspx?sItemID=ST-102

Bizarrely, the plastic cover over the lights is segmented into two rows of twelve. . . But it's still a totally cool item that I really recommend if you have the wherewithall. Just don't buy from MR, they go for half that on eBay or from any reputable MR dealer if you're lucky. 8)

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