Amasov Prime
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The fleets involved in the retaking of DS9 were the 2nd, 5th and 9th (according to the Encyclopedia). And I am quite sure that they were not parts but the entire fleets. Sisko mentioned that parts of the 2nd (?) fleet didn't arrive in time but he wanted to take off nontheless because the Cardassians would be able to remove the mines soon.
And the ditl-article is an interesting summary, but doesn't add that much new information. And the final statement that there are between probably between 1,000 and 10,000 ships in service in the 24th century isn't very precise, either.
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I'd think that the re-assigned ships had older and less combat-ready ships take their places to defend the threatened Federation worlds.
It explains why we never saw any Ambassador class ships or any of the Wolf 359 classes during the war.
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quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: The fleets involved in the retaking of DS9 were the 2nd, 5th and 9th (according to the Encyclopedia). And I am quite sure that they were not parts but the entire fleets.
Sisko: "By putting together a task force comprised of elements of the Second, Fifth, and Ninth Fleets, I believe we can retake Deep Space Nine -- the most important piece of real estate in the Alpha Quadrant." - "Favor the Bold"[DS9-6]
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"Elements" sont sound like very large percentages of those fleets. ...of course, that might have been Sisko's intention.
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I don't think every Fed. fleet during the war were of equal size. Fleets guarding key systems probably were larger and made up of better ships.
I'm not sure which fleet it was[9th? 2nd, or 5th], but Damar mentioned that one of these fleets were originally deployed along the vulcan front and were being withdrawn. Vulcan being a core world was guarded then by a much larger fleet.
The 7th was guarding something less important or a rear action fleet, or was structured for smaller assault operations or...*shrugs*.
This explains the difference between the fleet sizes but makes predicting how big the overall fleet all the more harder. You can take wild guesses and say the 10th[which was guarding earth] as having anywhere between 200-800 ships.
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During Dominion War 2373-2376 Intrepid Class:95=55 lost Akira Class:150=150 lost Excelsior Class:1500=1500 lost Ambassordor Class:1950=1950 lost Miranda:2250=2250 lost Galaxy Class:750=750 lost Soveriegn:6=4 lost Steamrunner Class:175:175 lost Sabre Class:200=150 lost Defiant Class:4=2 lost Oberth:20=30 lost Nova:400=100 lost =7365 starships left My Guess is that during the War Starfleet lost 50% of its fleet
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The backbone of the fleet is currently the wildly successful Elkins and Raging Queen classes.
There are four whole fleets of Raging Queens alone....the USS Ultra Magnus being their flagshhip.
By the end of the Dominion War there were eleventy billion Galaxy class dreadnaughts stationed around cleverly oversized Regula spacelabs.
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Amasov Prime
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Cartman's post got me thinking: if the appearances of ships per class on screen represent the average size of a class, here are some possible numbers:
242 ships counted (only ships with known class designations or onscreen appearances, multiple appearances just count as one. No kitbashes, as we don't know where the spare parts come from. With more time on my hands I could count every appearance of every ship and use that number, but for now - as a test - this will work). Assuming the size of Starfleet to be 5.000. I didn't sort out ships from the 23rd century because, even if they may not be in service any more, we know that the possible lifespan of a ship can be 100+ years, and especially during the DW they probably used everything they had. Plus, I have no idea which ships have been decommissioned. Again, if I had the time, I'd take it into concideration.
Assuming there are classes we haven't seen yet and ships already out of service, this should give us - at least for some classes - an impression of what we have to deal with. If anyone wants to further enhance my technique, feel free to do so.
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