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Hobbes
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This is tough. In "The Raven" it says SS Raven. "Dark Frontier" goes with USS Raven, was the registry given? I suppose if it were USS, its registry prefix might be NCC.
I guess the true question should be: Raven - USS or SS?

My database currently has USS Raven NAR-32450.

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Trinculo
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TSN
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Yes, but that's in the future when Starfleet probably has to differentiate between starships and timeships. In the current Trek universe, "USS" means Starfleet, and Starfleet uses "NCC" registries.

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Hobbes
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I've also noticed that NAR ships start with SS. Example, SS Vico NAR-18834 Oberth-class.

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Aethelwer
Frank G
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I think the original point or this was to decide if the Raven was Starfleet or non-Starfleet, and perhaps rationalise the discontinutity between "Raven" and "Dark Frontier."

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The359
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It definatly said NAR on the MSD

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Black Knight
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Rick Sternback said on one of his sketches (ST:Mag) that he recommended keeping NCC. And new arrowheads for the banner.

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TSN
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Well, I never saw "Dark Frontier", but I did see "The Raven". Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Raven belong to Hansens (sp?)? Where would they have gotten a Starfleet ship?

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The_Tom
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The current theory is that Raven was originally a non-Starfleet Federation research ship that the Hansen family through some cursory attachment to the xxx institute bumbled around in. Then Starfleet put them on a special mission to investigate these Borg-things, giving them official Starfleet status. She gets a USS name prefix and possibly an NCC reg. prefix and quietly slips off with the Borg to the DQ, never to be seen again.

My question is if the mission is so top secret that Picard doesn't even know of the Borg in '65, why mysteriously plaster "USS" onto the hull of the ship run by family of acknowledged screwballs for every passing Dopterian freighter to see? Or did the hull in fact still say SS and NAR but Magnus was being all-official in his logs?

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Davok
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As much as I remember, "...SS Raven NAR-32450" could be clearly seen when Tuvok and Seven escaped from the ship. But I think the left end was cut of, so it cut also be "USS". But "NCC-...", that's impossible.

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USS Vanguard
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Doesn't Picard the USS Tsiolkovsky as the SS Tsiolkovsky in the Naked Now. Probably just a misreading of the lines but I felt like throwing another log on the fire.

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TSN
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Yes, they consistently used the wrong prefix for the Tsiolkovsky in "The Naked Now". That one's always bothered me. I wonder if the crew might have called it "SS" because it was an Oberth, and they were accustomed to those being science ships w/ SS/NAR prefices...?

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Aethelwer
Frank G
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Hobbes: Could you write up the text for this, keeping in mind what everyone has said? Thanks.

Again, I think the major concern is whether the Raven is Starfleet or not...

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