quote: A good comparison chart ought to use "schematics" rather than "photographs" for clarity's sake, right?
Oh, absolutely. Nothing annoys me more than the occasional detailed images of various ships that would show up where one half the ship would be in total darkness since to some bizarre compulsion to have "realistic" lighting effects.
That leaves out everything from ST:The Magazine. Their own fleet chart was the most laughably bad thing I've ever seen published. Really- it's incredibly bad, and includes 65 meter long Federation Fighters. Fortunately, it was only in the very last issue of the mag.
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Well, only, or at least largely, because they were the only ones publishing such material. As far as the rest of your complaints go, I can't really speak to those. The ships looked fine, you just couldn't see all of them.
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About the shading thing: I'm just selfish in that regard- I want clear images for modeling references. Today's quest is a definitive New Orleans schemtic that I can scale for scratch-building a model. sounds like that'd be a simple matter, but I'm having to adjust for discrepancies in the studio model pics (what few there are).
Really, I just want Sternbach to be chained to a art desk untill we have definitive schematics on all ships shown in all the series from all angles.
Is that so much to ask for?
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Yet another talented guy we gotta kidnap and put to work...
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I mentioned the Sabre's size being based on the misprint from the DS9TM (a couple of years back) to him and he mentioned that it was "on his to do list" or something but I guess it was not to be. On the nice 11x17" print I made of that, I corrected that small issue.
It's really odd to see a Warbird and the Dominion Battleship so huge when next to DS9.....I agree with his figures there though.
Strange that he chose to add the tug in there: of all the ship designs, he add in something with one second of screen-time.
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Well despite the fact that he acknowledges "I have my own doubts about some of the ship measurements in that book [DS9 Tech Manual]."
I am still somewhat disturbed by the madness that must have overcame him to lead to such size dissimilarities of his 87m Rom TOS BoP -vs- Bernds 131m, and his 68m Jem'Hadar Attackship -vs- Bernds 95m.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I tend to agree but what I REALLY want (and started to do one rainy day in Photoshop) is to have the Fed ships scaled all along the left of the chart, the advasary ships all along the right side (both fleets facing towards the center of some 24x36" canvas) and a Borg Cube (with Sphere) directly in the center.
The Borg cube alone, if scaled 1pix/1m, would covert out to be around 30 inches x 30 inches. If you were to go much less than that...say 2pix/1m or less all of your smaller ships, ie BoPs, would be specks in comparison. I couldn't see throwing anything bigger than a Warbird on the chart and just stick to the sphere.
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Uh.....no on the Nebbie from the opening credits: that's WAAAAY too small in relation to the station. The Jemmie cruiser was parked at the lower pylon and (someone gimmie a screencap!) is absolutely frikkin huge compared with the station.
I gotta go with Bernd's sizes for just about everything shipwise.....though the Jemmie Battleship is realy that huge. It occurs to me that we never see a Jemmie cruiser or battleship destroyed. Ever. Closest is the Defiant's satrafinng run down a cruiser's back in SOA (after the klingons show up).
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Uh.....no on the Nebbie from the opening credits: that's WAAAAY too small in relation to the station.
But we've seen the Enterprise/Odyssey docked at an upper pylon and we've seen the Leeds and the Prometheus and the one where the Doctor who beat Bashir at the Academy arrives and thinks he was an Andorian - docked at a lower pylon.
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