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Unfortunate that the Romulan know a little thing called "function over form"? From the sounds of it this thing is highly specialised, so its uniqueness is quite appropriate.
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Since I guess this one will not see the end of the current trilogy, the Romulans will probably build more of these ships. They will become a part of the fleet and, at some point in the future, one of these ships will encounter the badlands, where a strange energy beam transports it to the Delta Quadrant. They begin their journey home but are intercepted by a yet unknown species. They kill the Romulans and copy their - from the aliens' point of view - advanced technology. Years later, the Starfleet ship Voyager encounters the same species but fails to recognize the ships, either because of the heavy modifications or because the data gathered 200 years earlier is still classified (or was lost).
And tomorrow I'll tell you why the Lysian commad station and the Edo god look the same.
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That's easy: the Lyssian's ARE the Edo gods: the Lyssians are an incredibly advanced race the occasionally assumes physical form to re-enact famous moments from their history: kind of like Ciil War enthusaiasts.
Or the Edo were themselves an incredibly advanced race that enjoy sex with lesser species and act dumb to attract them.
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quote:Originally posted by Topher: Brian Thompson was also the alien wanting Kira in a holonovel in "Rules of Acquisition" and a Jem'Hadar in "To The Death". He's also been on Charmed and Birds of Prey.
Birds of Prey - hehe nice connection.
No no, he was that red-guy who Quark was trying to make a deal with - the Dosi I think the species was.
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The Terelians were said to be hunted down wherever they popped up in the Galaxy, so it would make sense that the Vidiians and the other guys both encountered the Terellians and integrated their ships into their fleets. The Sphere in the middle is an escape pod. If they have to give up their ship, they use the sphere to disappear into subspace, a technology they got from the think tank. Terellian spheres were also assimilated by the Borg, who adapted the technology and equipped their cubes with these ships. And the borgified ex-terellian-plague-escape-pod-sphere that was used by the Borg to go back to the 21st century and was shot down over Antarctica was probably used by Starfleet as a blueprint for the Daedalus-class when they noticed that spheres look much cooler than dishes. Another Borg sphere that was used to travel back in time was captured by the "Sphere Builders" (until then they were only known as the "Dudes Who Look Like The Suliban") who decided th adapt the technology, too. One of the Sphere builders however went insane and wanted to build the biggest Sphere of them all. He was exiled but finished his work. Thousands of years later the chief engineer of the Enterprise crashed with his transport vessel on that sphere's surface.
I hope this answers the question. BTW, tomorrow I'll post my 250-pages essay on the origins of the Hammerhead freighter.
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Really, there's no real reason why all of these races living in close proximity to each other (I'm talking about the Tellerites, Arkonians, Xindi, etc., the races that live within the sphere of space in the Alpha Quadrant accessible to Enterprise) can't have been trading technology (or stealing it from each other) for quite some time.
The way I see it, there's two ways you can look at this kind of thing. You can rationalize it "in-universe" like I just did above, or you can just say "eh, they reused the models, it's a TV show and they need to be economic." Either way, I'd say that the percentage of viewers whom this really bothers or distracts from the story is extremely small. I might even venture to say that most viewers recognize the NX-01 and that's about all.
Not to say that I don't enjoy it when they put a lot of effort into small details, but as long as the story is good that's really all I'm concerned with. Look at TOS. They had a total of what, maybe SIX models during the entire run of the show? And it never mattered, because the VFX weren't the focus, it was the plot and the characters.
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: The way I see it, there's two ways you can look at this kind of thing. You can rationalize it "in-universe" like I just did above, or you can just say "eh, they reused the models, it's a TV show and they need to be economic." Either way, I'd say that the percentage of viewers whom this really bothers or distracts from the story is extremely small.
But you forget that an overwhelmingly big percentace of this small percentage frequents this forum.
I don't have a problem with technology "sharing" (one way or the other), either. Since the appearance of Romulan D7s this has never been an issue. Look at today's navies. If you're not smart enough to invent it just copy it. Or buy it. Or both.
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Oh, BTW, I can't believe I didn't think of this before, but I just realized that this episode puts the final nail in the coffin on the DEAD DEAD DEAD issue of whether Romulans have warp drive in this era or not. Irrefutably explicitly DEAD.
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If people have managed to argue that the Romulans never had warp drive in TOS for over 30 years, I'm sure they'll manage to ignore this evidence too.
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Reuses are bad when it's REALLY obvious. I thought i had seen the flea before - but that was probably only because of the fact files schematic.
I didn't notice the Tellarite/Xindi Arboreal (although lets hope we see a definate 'Tellarite' design style.)
The main annoying model problem in Entperprise is when they used the Movie Klingon Cruiser. Even that wasn't so bad, and can be somehow explained away.
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I'd like to say, that it is stupid beyond any stretch of the imagination to say Romulans could travel interstellar distances in short amount of time [which they did in Balance of Terror]. However, it is not stupid to say that the Romulans are limited to Impulse Power, which is synonomous with Fusion power in Star Trek--- especially TOS. AND if you aren't intelligent enough to figure it out, warp drive can run on fusion power.
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Yes, but that's not what the argument was. In Trek, FTL pretty much = warp drive, and impulse pretty much = slower than the speed of light. So, yes, the logical theory is saying that they were impulse powered in TOS. The stupid theory is to say that they couldn't travel at the speed of light or faster.
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