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Y'know I always believed T'pol was older than we were made to believe. Carbon Creek to me made it seem that she was lying to Archer and Tucker about her grandma being on that faithful mission and it was she who was on the Vulcan ship that crashed. And yet her mommy was still around for season 4...
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Yeah I know, but I found it so hard to believe that she's a duplicate of her grandmother like the wacky Soong family.
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I didn't know what to make of Carbon Creek. I chose to believe the story was made up and that she came by the heirloom we see her looking at at the end of the episode some other way. Otherwise it's kind of, you know, hard to believe...
Spock was haggard at 60 and about the same 80 years later, yes. So, maybe his mixed heritage means he'll live as old as 200 or so (considering how old humans can be at that time, which was a good point) but he visually ages more quickly - McCoy looked like shit even though he could walk and breathe. Or maybe going through Genesis made him age more quickly, who knows. Bottom line is he may have as many as 50 years left to him, so they could set the 'elderly Spock' scenes as late as 40-60 years after TNG. (And they really should; Leonard Nimoy looks a lot older than he did during TNG. Humans don't age nearly as gracefully as Vulcans [or humans of the 24th century ;P].)
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Ponderings... I can't seem to find the 400 million post strong thread on Paramount's Yard Sale on Ebay, but in light of my curiousity on the idea of CGI BoBW ships...
did they sell the models from BoBW's? if so, who has them? Bernd, you might help on this? (especially the guy who made the Niagara and Freedom vessels? does he still have those two?)
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The BoBW ships, though at the heart of numerous speculation and discussion, were never meant to be more than wreckage to be used for an episode of TNG. The idea that they would be resurrected in CGI in light of all the other more prominent TNG era ships is hopeful wish at best.
In anycase, wasn't there a Galaxy-class model that was lost somewhere. I know the Ent-D existed as several models with different sizes, and one of them went missing. It would resurface in Planet Hollywood and then in the hands of some female Trek uberfan. There was a Galaxy class at Christie's auction, but I don't know if that was it.
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I just hope that no one destroys those models, or they become lost to time. They are historical artifacts, afterall, if not that, then at least they are uber important to the millions of geeks out there like me.
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Of course I don't wish anything bad for those ships and in fact I'm somewhat saddened when I hear about things like the loss of the Norway class and Excelsior Refit CGI.
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I'm talking about the models sold at auction, like the TMP motion model, but yeah, it would be bad to lose those piece of shit quickie models too. They are something that noone ever thought anyone would care about at the time they were built, but look where we are now.
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Well the last time we saw anything of the New Orleans model it was hanging up in Mike Okuda's office (titillating many a fan in one of the TNG DVD extras), so I get the impression that the BoBW models haven't surfaced in the auctions because Okuda and co and keeping them in a safe place.
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