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I agree. The model itself doesn't look too detailed though. I'm guessing that this design is supposed to be the Miranda to the Soverign's Constitution. I wonder what other Sovie contemporaries would look like. Is the Intrepid class condsidered to be in the same design family?
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Uh... Am I the only one who thinks that's essentially an Akira with some of the bits pushed around and the "Sovereign" theme turned on?
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Don't sully my beloved Akira by comparing it to the Luna
quote:Originally posted by TSN: Uh... Am I the only one who thinks that's essentially an Akira with some of the bits pushed around and the "Sovereign" theme turned on?
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The problem is, when Nemesis came out, I got the distinct impression that the Titan was supposed to be this massive ship, even bigger than the Enterprise-E (hence the name Titan). I couldn't see Riker accepting the command of a ship that was less powerful or smaller than the Enterprise, even if it was of a new class. Plus, its very first mission was to negotiate a peace treaty with the Romulan Empire. A mission of that magnitude would require the services of a ship like the Galaxy class, wouldn't you think, even if it were just as a show of strength? However, Pocket books decided to take a different approach.
At least the ship is non-canon. If Berman and Braga had had an ounce of sense in their heads, they would have brought back Riker and Troi post-Nemesis instead of during "The Pegasus" for that shitty series finale of ENT. And if that had been the case, I guarantee they would not have used Sean Toranganeau's design, if only to avoid copyright issues.
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I think I listed TitanNebula in my lists.
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quote:Originally posted by Pensive's Wetness: ...ok, i just looked on Bernd's and DITL. both sites don't offer any info on the Luna class (since it's a book, thus not quite Cannon, yet). Is that intential or any interest in that regard? I'm not really sure where to go with this idea ATM...
I seem to remember the contest requirements having it around 400-450m long.
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quote:Here are the main parts of the concept notes from the back of the titan novel...(not exactly word for word)
Titan Concept notes
USS Titan, NCC 80102, Luna-Class
The Titan is a mid-size starfleet vessel, approx. 450m in length, with a crew complement of 350, Titans hull configuration is comparable to other SF vessels.
Luna class is SF newest-gen long-range explorer, a starship but not built specifically for combat, but like the connie, a vessel designed for a long term multipurpose mission into uncharted space. Equipped with conventional Tactical systems (deflector shields, phasers, quantum torps) Titan also boasts state-of-the-art propulsion and cutting-edge scientific equipment as well as being a testbed for experimental scienc tech not yet available on other classes.
The Titan is manned by the most varied multispecies crew in SF history, with humans comprising less than 15% of the 350 member crewthe diversity of the crew is intended to facilitate stories that will explore the ways that beings of different cultures, biologies, psychologies and physical appearances learn how to work together, or fail to, depending on the circumstances they encounter.
The Luna-class development project was initiated in 2369 in response to the discovery of the Bajoran wormhole. Field testing of the USS Luna began in 2372, but the projected was shelved due to the dominion war, then resumed in 2375.
LUNA-Class Fleet:
all ships named for moons in the Sol System (Terran Solar System)
Amalthea Callisto Charon Europa Galatea Ganymede Io Luna Oberon Rhea Titan Triton
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Truthfully, it's not a bad overall design, if a bit fanboyish with all the obvious Akira elements. Seriously, this looks much more like an Akira than the NX-01 ever did. The book's writing was lackluster and, like most of us, I never felt compelled to buy the second novel despite the cliffhanger Voyager gag of the ship being thrown too far from home to ever return (and with Tuvok on board no less!).
As to the ship, lose the pod, shorten that silly-ass landing strip (useless in space anyway!) at the rear and de-Akira those bloated nacelles a bit and it'd be just fine. If the torpedo thingie pod is retained, I'd blen the support pylons into the akira-esque catamaran bumps on the saucer- thicken them a bit so a turbolift could easilt get up there too. Also, it seems a bit shy on phaser coverage- maybe add a pair to those incredibly wasteful giant nacelle pylons- that's probably 100 tonnes of mass that's not needed- just to give it that "bat" look, so why not add phasers there?
Do junior officers get stuck with quarters under the pod with a window looking on nothing?
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Why can't they come up with more ships like the Sovereign-class? That thing is just pure art and made ST:FC 10x better for an already great movie.
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The pointy nacelle ends look silly if you're not looking at the ship from the foreward flyby- it's made to look "fast" as it pans past the camera's eye but the ship looks silly from behind or from the sides.
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I just noticed looking at the model shots on the last page, the Titan looks like someone stepped on an Akira and stuck a pod on top. The nacelles look exactly the same. The bridge and surrounding structures are the same... just squished.
But yay for him... he got a big model made of his ship.
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