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Don't forget that C-section by transporter in Voyager.
Oh, and along a similar vein, I read a fic once in which the Romulans used transporter tech to extract a few human female embryos in order to further their bioweapon research. Of course, they had to kidnap the women first, but that's a possibility.
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You could probably de-toxify someone via the transporter- even replace the air in someone's lungs with fresh air....tricky to match volume and millibar density but a small task compared with the tech in general.
I wonder what they do with with the displaced atmosphere volume when they beam someone in...
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I figure the annular confinement beam sweeps the air out of the way just before rematerialization.
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So much treknomagic in here. I bet O'Brien got ready for his shifts in the transporter room by grabbing his robe and wizard hat.
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quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: I figure the annular confinement beam sweeps the air out of the way just before rematerialization.
That would probably result in a pop-o-matic sound.
Hmmm...a cool sabotage would be to remove that feature- resulting in a lethal case of the bends.
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Decidedly unpleasant. It makes me wonder how exactly they found out that you needed that feature...I'd hate to be the first few test subjects for the transporter.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: That would probably result in a pop-o-matic sound.
Maybe that's what the fwooshy sound is for?
But then, it doesn't seem like an all-at-once thing. The transporting process takes a few seconds on each end, not including however much time one spends in the buffer. So it could be a piece-by-piece process in which the individual molecules each displace the air around them, negating the "pop." (Maybe that's what the fwooshy sound is?)
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Well, exactly, it takes a few seconds - I thought there wouldn't be much of a sound if it took a second or two to sweep the air out of the way instead of doing it all at once? Any fluid dynamicisists in here?
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I'm not a scientist, but my very basic understanding of the whole concept would suggest that the "pop" would be more pronounced in a shorter period of time versus a longer time. Therefore, since the ACB probably starts from the center and expands outwards, it would create a puff of air, certainly, but not a "pop."
I'd betcha that we'd have heard the "pop," though, in those instances where a TOS character instantly disappeared with that cheesy "boi-i-ng" sound. The air rushing in to fill the vacuum instantly created by the departure of said character would certainly create a "pop."
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Again, I figured there was a force field holding the air back on demat until they were totally gone, then sliding back to let the air fill the hole slowly. Not just to prevent a sound, of course, but because you never know what you might disturb with a sudden human-sized vacuum appearing, especially on a starship.
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A force field would make sense- it would prevent some damn passing bug from sticking in your chest. maybe the transporter takes a few seconds to ever-so-slightly adjust your matter to the localized environment: pressure, gravity, etc. Otherwise someone taking a big breath in as he transported might be in for a nasty shock as his lungs collpsed. Or maybe the glowy effect is the shedding of massive amounts of planetary inertia: no way the orbiting ship matches perfect geo-sync orbit- most times the ship watching the planet pass underneath it while in orbit.
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Well isn't the annular confinement beam canonically established as a force field which preserves the matter stream? It seems to me that pretty much covers the whole bug-chest-sticking-thing.
Why would his lungs collapse? If he's beaming from an area of ~1atm to another area of ~1atm, there shouldn't be any nasty effects.
I figure if they can scan you on the subatomic level and reconstruct you later then they can add and subtract momentum at will.
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The lungs thing would depend on the pressure of the atmosphere he's beaming into, also if you suddenly were beamed onto a world with a thin atmospgere you'd at least hyperventilate trying to get oxygen. Also, you ears could burst in a dense, high pressure atmosphere- having done several dives" in a myperbariac chamber, I have grim experience on such dangers.
The momentum thing is really...odd. They have to account for the ship's speed, planetary rotation...the works. Also, the beam has to move with the planet's rotation, lest the subject be spread all over the landscape (beaming is not instantanous).
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Why would you beam somewhere with a dense/thin atmosphere that was enough to hurt you anyway? Wouldn't you wear an environment suit?
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