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I made two scans from someone's Youtube video. Yep, they are new shots of the model: a bottom view from Drexler's original photos, and several great views of the model from other angles. Incidentally, both the photos and the text make it clear that Buckner meant for the ship to be smaller than a Miranda, and yet Eaglemoss made their model Excelsior-sized.
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I could only use the model parts I had access to (other parts came from random airplane/tank/etc. kits), but I recreated the ship as best I could.
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Nicely done - looks very close. Cleaner, actually, without all the random greebles. Possibly my favorite of the whole DS9 FrankenFleet.
I noticed you already put the decals on. Are you going to try to reproduce the somewhat over-the-top paint scheme she had with all the blues and golds?
I do wonder whatever became of the first one he made and if the kid (now an adult) knows how valuable it is...
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No, the purpose of recreating the models was to show how they'd look as actual filming models as opposed to slapped-together-haphazardly-painted kitbashes. Hence the bluish base coat and light-blue warp grilles. I had been meaning to add more paint applications all over the model but got sidetracked by life.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: I made two scans from someone's Youtube video. Yep, they are new shots of the model: a bottom view from Drexler's original photos, and several great views of the model from other angles. Incidentally, both the photos and the text make it clear that Buckner meant for the ship to be smaller than a Miranda, and yet Eaglemoss made their model Excelsior-sized.
I'm torn on the scale thing- it really work best from a parts POV, when you scale using the Miranda bridge and torp launchers- but from a practical perspective, what possible use could this tiny ship have during peacetime?!?
Also, the forward-facing Excelsior hangar would be almost useless at the smaller scale- maybe housing some workbees or a lone shuttlepod.
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Sorry for the thread revive, but I finally found out what that piece is on the Raging Queen's secondary hull: It's the top piece from the cockpit of the Maquis Raider model kit:
These two shots show the piece at the exact same front angle on each model. They're clearly the same part.
Now I'm trying to figure out what that part is on the side of the Hutzel model. It's the fin-like piece at the back of the saucer between the Ent-B's impulse engine and the blue Robotix piece:
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OH OF FUCKING COURSE!!
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Fin looks like it's from an AT-AT or AT-ST.
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So, I happen to own an unbuilt Maquis Raider kit (for my one-day Yeager project) and I can confirm the part that Dukhat found. Behold! Part #7 on sprue #3605-9010:
I’ve had the damn thing for years and never knew it! Now I kind of wonder if there's anything else that’s supposed to be behind it on the RQ. Never seen any head-on fore or aft photos of it that may provide a clue.
quote:Now I'm trying to figure out what that part is on the side of the Hutzel model. It's the fin-like piece at the back of the saucer between the Ent-B's impulse engine and the blue Robotix piece:
The part with the lateral cuts arranged in a column? The column looks like a piece of metal strapping as one might use to clamp down a vehicle hose. I hate to say anything given how vague the memory is, but I seem to recall a cheap plastic toy that used such a thing but I can't recall more specifics, unfortunately.
Like the little cheap plastic boxes with a grooved sliding lid and matching 'key' turner/opener, I don't think it lasted very long in intended use.
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Was thinking the same thing about the hose clamp ribbing.
As for the base part it’s sitting on, it’s so generic-looking and simple that it looks like it could easily be reproduced from a cut sheet of styrene if an origin can’t be sourced.
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quote:Now I kind of wonder if there's anything else that’s supposed to be behind it on the RQ. Never seen any head-on fore or aft photos of it that may provide a clue.
Since the saucer is connected to the secondary hull only by the nacelle pylon piece, the 'hump' where the pylons connect probably goes between the open area at the back of the Maquis cockpit part. There's probably nothing else back there since there's a big gaping hole where the pylon hump is supposed to go.
The other mystery of the Raging Queen is the 'ramp' part under the rear of the saucer. I have no idea what that is.
And for the mystery part on the Hutzel: It's one piece. The guy who built that replica showed the parts in their original molded colors when he was building it, and it's an all-black piece. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to want to respond to me when I ask him what that piece is (he posted the pics of his replica on Facebook.)
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It looks like it has some kind of “ladder” detail, with possible rungs at regular intervals, but it’s really too difficult to tell. I think I’ve seen pieces like that on WWII kits like the kinds used to build the TOS Battlestar Galactica filming miniature.
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It looks like it has some kind of “ladder” detail, with possible rungs at regular intervals, but it’s really too difficult to tell. I think I’ve seen pieces like that on WWII kits like the kinds used to build the TOS Battlestar Galactica filming miniature.
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