Maybe they inserted the windows afterwards, though.
I think in WotW the VFX people didn't care much about starship sizes. I should have to watch it again and more closely, but I remember the ships were all about the same size (for instance K't'ingas and Vor'chas).
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Forgot to tell: with a deck height of 3.3m the ship is about 1100m long. Compared to the Defiant, it seems even longer, no matter if the latter is 170m or 68m.
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Bernd,
Are we talking about this point?
If so, then I also get a size of 1000m using 10' decks. The windows aren't visible on Doug Drexler's drawing, I don't know about the miniature. If you take a look at deck spacing in the DS9TM schematic, it appears as though only five rows were intended to be present in the top half of the marked area. The alternate universe Negh'Var might be a modification/VFX alteration of the existing model, or Doug Drexler's schematics are incorrect. I'm gonna take a look at the Olympic comparisons in AGT now.
Boris
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That's exactly my point. Since I don't think they actually changed the (hardware) model, they could have added the light rows to the completed model shots and just doubled them compared to the windows on the model (if there are any) or (if there are none) the *originally intended* number of decks.
I also found two nice images from "All Good Things", which clearly suggest that this particular version of the Negh'Var is not *that* much bigger than an Olympic:
The Pasteur averages at 244m (range: 220-269m) in my spreadsheet, when compared to the known sizes of Oberth, Intrepid, Const II, Miranda, Const I, Excelsior, Sovereign, Galaxy and Nebula. The second AGT picture seems to indicate that the Negh'Var is pretty close to twice the width of the Pasteur. That's an overall length of 336m. I would guess it could be higher than this given the perspective, but probably not 1,100m.
As for the windows, I think I can see some on the pics you posted, but it is very unlikely that the model contains 14 rows in the "Shattered Mirror" position. Judging by the concentration and the blurring, I would not be so sure that this can be natural lighting, but I could be wrong. There are some additional AGT Negh'Var pictures in the Negh'Var section of Pedro's ship-o-rama site, but nothing too conclusive with regard to the windows.
Boris
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Well, the AGT scene can probably be ignored, since it was all a Q illusion. He probably didn't bother getting the sizes right, since Piacrd probably wouldn't have known the difference anyway.
And, as for the Olympic, I don't think the encyclopedia is right about it. Assuming the deck height is somewhere between 12 and 13 feet, it is somewhere from 312 to 338m long. Your figure give a deck height of less than 10', which seems a bit low for a hospital ship like the Pasteur.
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Actually, the deck spacing could be 10' if we assume the upper limit of the Encyclopedia size. Unfortunately, we have no information as yet concerning the relationship between deck heights and ship types, save for the fact that certain smaller ships can have it in the 8-10' range, and that older ships appear to have lower deck heights (this based on a single example: the Constitution). I mean, once we have the 8 feet of walking space, anything is possible in-between.
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