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This was brought to my attention in a recent e-mail: What if the infamous Intrepid-Constitution kitbash in the DS9TM is actually supposed to depict the Intrepid prototype? What if this ship was actually in the background of some DS9 episode?
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I remember seeing the first diagram in Star Trek Monthly as early Voyager concept sketches. I'm sure it's the same ship.
The second one, though, is new to me. Not as bad looking as the first, but it is a kitbash. And you know how I feel about the majority of them. This one isn't bad, as things go.
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There are photos of an actual model of the first one in "The Art of Star Trek."
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Bernd, you're very right about the custom part designed for the Intrepid/Constitution schematic alone. In my opinion, it's a new design that should've been used for some of the earlier ships we hear but see nothing about. Kitbashing it into an Intrepid hull seems to imply that technology and designs some 80 years apart are so flimsy that a combination could actually work; somehow it feels very wrong. It's like trying to weed a field with a cow behind the electric weeder -- but then again, Trek's only as real as we want it to be.
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I agree, the Intrepid/Constitution Variant appears to be a representation of the Voyager concept model that appears in the book 'Art of Star Trek'. And yes, the inspiration for the Dauntless probably came from the concept model. My web-site actually has a bit of a spiel on this subject.
Bernd, are you suggesting that the actual USS Intrepid looks like the Voyager concept model? This would mean that USS Voyager is the first of its kind(!).
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It would be paradox to name the class after a ship that looks completely different than the other ships of this class. Anyway, if there is a name conflict it is because the model is labeled USS Voyager NCC-73???.
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I remember seeing a schematic of what the real Intrepid Class prototype is supposed to look like. I think it was in the SSD web page. The ship looked like Voyager, but the nacelle pylons were from the Danube Class runabouts which has the nacelles in the same position like the Nebula Class.
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I was only teasing you, Bernd The USS Intrepid should be practically identical to USS Voyager. Voyager probably was the first production Intrepid-class ship.
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There is no canon evidence on the number of Intrepid class ships. The Voyager pilot points out that Voyager is an exceptionally maneuverable ship in a dialogue between Janeway and Paris, but this could mean that it's just a brand new ship (class) and not that Voyager is one of only a few ships or even the only one of its kind.
The Fact Files say there are only two Intrepid class ships, but this is clearly disproven by the USS Bellerophon.
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We'd have to look at some starship construction chronologies to estimate how many Intrepids there are at the moment, however, the variable-geometry concept appears to have been experimental as late as 2367 (when TNGTM was published). It would be great if Rick Sternbach could make that TNGTM concept the initial stage, then switch to the prototype, and then the Voyager model as the final concept.
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The USS Intrepid should be practically identical to USS Voyager. Voyager probably was the first production Intrepid-class ship.
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