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Dax
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Can anyone help me understand how the Intrepid-class can have such relatively short warp nacelles. No other starship has nacelles anywhere near so short. It is especially strange, considering the Intrepids are so damn fast. I also reckon it makes the ship appear unbalanced. It's unfortunate when every other aspect of the ship is so well designed. *sigh*

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Supposedly it was to imply that warp coil efficiency had increase - i.e. smaller number of warp coils needed for the same engine performance - i.e. compared to the original Enterprise or even the Enterprise-D but then we get the Enterprise-E... *american accent* 'go figure'

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Dax
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Even the Prometheus (another new design) has much longer nacelles. Quite simply, no other starship has such short nacelles as the Intrepid-class (unless you want to count the crap Intrepid kitbash Yeager-class).
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Michael Dracon
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Newer ships have smaller nacelles?? And what about the Sovereign class??

I found a rule in nacelle sizes: The length of the nacelles of a Federation Starship is between 2/5 and 2/3 of the total length. The Intrepid class is the only exception to this rule. The Yeager class may not be an exception, if you believe the picture in the DS9 Tech Manual.

BTW: An addition was made when the Defiant was introduced: Defiant type nacelles are 1/3 of the total ship length. All canon ships with this type of nacelles comply to this rule.

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Elim Garak
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It gives Voyager character.

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Dax
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What was your point, Altair? BTW, the Yeager pic in DS9TM has nacelles that are very similar to the Intrepid ones. You must be thinking of the Intrepid prototype/concept kitbash (with the Miranda nacelles).

I'll assume you were being sarcastic, Elim

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Elim Garak
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Actually, I wasn't, as I like Voyager's overall configuration quite a bit.

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Dax
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I like everything excluding the crappy nacelles.
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Can some one explain to me Voyager's warp core? It's a swirling mix instead of the chamber where the matter and anti-matter are pumped into the central dilithium chamber. Maybe this is also why the ship has small nacelles.

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Michael Dracon
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Ever noticed that the 3D diagram of 'Voyager' that is rotating in the background monitors has larger nacelles??

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Michael Dracon
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And about that warpcore:
I don't know how that works, but I do know it is also used in the movies 1-3 Enterprise.
In fact: They even used the same set.
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Dax
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Yes, you guys have a very good point. I've pondered the same thing. Why would Voyager have the same type of core as the Original Refit Enterprise? It looks good but is inconsistent with the other 24th Century ships. Hmmm...

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Guys, clearly you didn't understand my post...

supposedly the smaller nacelles on Voyager was supposed to convey the idea that the technology had gotten better - i.e. the same speeds/ability say as the E-D but with fewer warp coils in the nacelles...

The E-nil and E-A and E-B had long nacelles, then we get the E-C and E-D with shorter nacelles and then we get the Intrepid class with even smaller nacelles...

but the E-E stuffs up this idea... so does the Prommie.

But the ship from 'hope and fear' has small nacelles - maybe another clue in the episode that this wasn't a genuine Starfleet ship.

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Dax
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It's funny, but the Sovereign and Prometheus are the only classes faster than the Intrepid. What does that mean? Don't ask me

I thought the Dauntless looked pretty cool. The nacelles weren't so short as Voy's, but they were still small.

The Intrepid warp core issue is actually a more interesting question then the nacelle length

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Elim Garak
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The Prometheus goes Warp 9.9, although they said it was the fastest in the fleet.

And we have really no basis of saying Sovereigns go faster than Intrepids...

Although you do have a good point about nacelle sizes there...

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