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Spike
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If the 16**-numbers are right, are these ships upgrades of other classes? And when "yes" what classes? Baton Rouge-Class or something other? Has anyone information about the Baton Rouge-Class?

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The359
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There is no canon Baton Rouge Class, so I couldn't help ya

As for why there are lower registries, simple, the USS Constitution NX-900 or so, which some people seem to deny for one reason or another. The USS Constitution NCC-1700 is merely the 2nd ship to bear the name in that class.

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The problem with that is that it's never been confirmed or denied that NCC-1700 was in fact the class ship or not. It is only assumed to be because of the even number, it bears the name Constitution (which the class name has been confirmed on screen while before it was only conjectural), and is the closest numbered ship to the Enterprise.

To summarize, there is no definite answer to why a few Constitution class ships are lower than 1700.

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Regarding upgrades from other classes, tech fandom postulates that both the Constellation (NCC-1017) and the Republic (NCC-1371) were upgraded to Constitution specs from Archon class.

Archon Class

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That's nonsense. If you made that ship into a Constitution, what would even be left of the original? You'd essentially be building a new ship. That's not an upgrade.

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Spike
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Is the Archon-Class canon or not. It doesn't appear in Star Trek, does it?

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go to the starship names thread in this section to see my explanation on registries, it explains away the early registries for constitution class and even that early ambassador etc.

Andrew

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Spike
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The "Pacificnet-Ship-Library" is very good. But some links to ship-classes don't work. Will these classes go online in the future? It gives only one ship of a class. Where can I get a list with all ships of a class?

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The Archon-class is NOT canon. Personally, I think one should post which classes are not canon when you are a webmaster, so as to help us ignorants :-)

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It may be nonsense, but *I* didn't come up with it. I'm just passing along what tech fandom postulates.

As for the ships on my site which bring up the "Temporarily Offline" graphic, these are ships I intend to add to the site but which I haven't yet drawn. Eventually, all of these will be added, but in the meantime, their names linked to the "Temporarily Offline" graphic are there as placeholders.

Of course, by the time I add them all to the site, there'll be new ships I'll have to draw.

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The Archon class as such has a dubious history. Was it a SFB creation, or FASA? In any case, USS Archon of TOS "Return of the Archons" was supposed to be the class ship of this class, which is both an unnecessary coincidence and not good timeline-wise. Ditto for the Horizon class.

But IIRC, the Horizon/Archon classes were never graphically represented in the original material - the funny picture with rescaled Daedalus components probably isn't true to the original intentions of the people who wrote the text. The Archon class could have existed, perhaps with a secondary hull identical to that of the later Constitutions but with slightly different engines, and with a flat sphere instead of a saucer as the primary hull. She'd still meet the requirements of the original text, but would be an acceptable predecessor for the Constitutions.

Just say that the TOS USS Archon was really of Daedalus class, and the Archon class was created to honor that ship (but the new USS Archon never did anything very significant). Then the noncanon and canon timelines will intermix just fine.

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The Baton Rouge class was one of the ships designed by Rick Sternbach for the "Spaceflight Chronology" published around 1980. It was the direct predecessor of the Constitution class. Definitely noncanon.

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